Why Telegram had to follow Apple and Google when they suspended a voting app

Post by SergeAx » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 6:16 AM UTC

noxer wrote: post #59

GekkePrutser wrote: post #51

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I kinda doubt that part. If he was in their good graces again I think we'd hear more about it But I think Russia is a much bigger market for Telegram than Iran was. It's where they started after all. I'm pretty sure that'll play a part in it too. Easy thing to throw away 0.5% of your marketshare, another when it's 20%. Ps I made those numbers up :)

When Russia wanted some kind of encryption keys he could not hand over because they dont exist, Telegram was banned in Russia but people found ways to use it anyway. So I dont think Russia has anything to "force" Durov other than via Apple/Google. He doesn't live there or owns anything there and according to past posts of him and there are no Telegram servers there either. + The proxy stuff to circumvent Russia's ban…

Post by SergeAx » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 6:21 AM UTC

twelve40 wrote: post #87

vldchk wrote: post #30

Here is the thing: Durov lies. There is no law in Russia which forces him to ban that channel, and no concept of “silent days” anymore. Russian authorities has NEVER asked Telegram to remove anything. They pushed Google and Apple to remove links to Navalny application from search and from Apple Store (and Apple removes it only for Russia users, btw, unlike Telegram removes it for everyone), and Telegram was absolutel…

what you wrote in the first part is incorrect. The law that prohibits campaigning during the election is still very much there, just like in many other countries, just not one day in advance like it used to be - this is debunked in the other thread - https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4800223 Btw, strange you didn't quote any sources for your claim - just a claim. > Russian authorities has NEVER asked Telegram to remove a…

Post by kuschkufan » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 7:18 AM UTC

Post by feanaro » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 7:31 AM UTC

seniorivn wrote: post #82

cnst wrote: post #74

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Remove it and replace it with what exactly?! Telegram remains the only mainstream free speech platform on the web today, with the least amount of censorship and the most resiliency against being taken down.

there is matrix, the best option, both secure and reasonably well made(element and alternative clients), but it miles behind telegram in terms of UI/UX even though it's on par with whatsapp/signal/etc

Post by stkdump » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 7:45 AM UTC

Y_Y wrote: post #19

cnst wrote: post #12

A very objective article, actually, and goes well to explain how this request to block the "voting app" isn't at all as controversial as portrayed in the Western MSM: > Second, this particular demand of the Russian authorities wasn't obviously unconstitutional, as they referred to a law that restricts campaigning after people start casting their votes. Laws against political campaigning while voting is underway exist…

But Telegram doesn't distribute apps, they blocked a "user" related to the app from using their network. The article does seem very reasonable, but I'd disagree that it's objective, since the author, Durov, runs Telegram and is writing to justify their actions.