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Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by climb_stealth »

eyeball wrote: post #326
randomhodler84 wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep it patched. Use strong passwords. If not, a botnet will ransom it. Nothing is a substitute for Offline backups. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/synology-warn...

ugh, that's not confidence inspiring. I'd like to get a NAS to get my data out of cloud services. Would periodically swap out drives and store the backup ones at a relatives house. Would keep it disconnected from the external internet other than for pulling in updates. But this makes me nervous.

Sounds to me like you would probaby be fine. As the article states there are various safeguards against it. Even just 2FA helps against brute force. Alternatively don't have it accessible from the internet.

Synology is a good compromise for ease of use and being able to actually set it up the way you want and need it. I have been using them for a few years and I'm happy with them. You actually get a good range of options for setting it up securely. I'm much more concerned about my router being taken over in some way as it doesn't get security updates and there is not much you can do with it.

And yes, I use it amongst other things for local backups. But then still back up to Dropbox and Google Drive from the NAS and other devices. And to external hard drives to swap around. It doesn't make me use cloud storage less, but I'm a lot less concerned about losing access with having everything local as well.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by eitland »

Syonyk wrote: post #356
dude3 wrote: post #350

While not Google Drive, today my Ad words account was suddenly suspended because of non payment. No warning just a suspension. I have a 100% Valid credit card number on my account. I need to submit an appeal and then I get a vague "because of Covid 19" we can't respond even though we know Google has hired a record number of contractors and folks in the US this year. Something isn't right.

Interesting - I got a sternly worded warning about the billing information for my GCE account this evening, and after looking and verifying that the credit card on file was, in fact, still my credit card, and not remotely close to expired, I shrugged. The VM I run there as a freebie instance for a few things isn't that important, it would be annoying to lose it, but... I'd just spin up another VM somewhere else for t…

Google has been crumbling under its own weight since a decade ago it seems.

Search quality has been deteriorating, services shut down, quotas lowered etc.

Wonder if they manage to break this cycle. I'd kind of of so given all the pension fund money that is invested into it.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by ashtonkem »

Gigachad wrote: post #329
exporectomy wrote: post #327

It's possible he really did violate Google's "Program Policies" which are utterly ridiculous: "If storing or distributing content related to terrorism for an educational, documentary, scientific, or artistic purpose be mindful to provide enough information so viewers understand the context." So a random photo of a ute with the ISIS logo on the side might be a violation if you don't also write some commentary explaini…

As if the Google AI is smart enough to understand context anyway. If you are going to use google services, set a calendar reminder to download the takeout dump very frequently. It's pretty easy to do and saves you in these cases.

And there’s no way to actually get your case in the hands of a human, who might understand the context, without making it to the front page of HN.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by eitland »

Gigachad wrote: post #335
noxer wrote: post #265

Daily reminder that you need backups Daily reminder that online stored files should be encrypted (no bot would have found anything it doesnt like) Daily reminder that google is know for this and should not be used unless for a third backup or something.

You can easily get your data out frequently from here https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout Encrypted data is too much of a pain because it breaks cross platform integrations. I mostly upload files via my ipad and phone which are unable to encrypt the data. It also prevents you from previewing things without downloading the full file first.

It is a pain to use IMO.

You get a mail sometime in the future and after receiving it you have to turn around and download multiple chunks, log in for each of them and do it quickly before they disappear.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by ashtonkem »

Gigachad wrote: post #370
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having recently dealt with what I’m assuming are a meatbag support team from Microsoft (specifically their business partnership program), I can honestly say there’s not much difference between a bunch of useless meatbags and no support whatsoever. It took me 4 weeks to sign up for a service which requires few business details and proof of a domain by form of an invoice . For a reason I don’t understand, it has no bea…

That's easy to fix. You have a government body that takes complaints and if a company receives too many complaints over their customer service, they must pay a penalty.

That’s basically the US banking system, and it’s notoriously consumer un-friendly.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by ashtonkem »

no_butterscotch wrote: post #228
ajb wrote: post #97

One of the simplest functions of a justice system - before impartial judgement, before detailed laws, before qualified advocates - is simply the right to summon a powerful person to justify their actions. Increasingly it seems that we will need this to be applied here, ideally in some simpler and less costly way than a full trial. It is just wrong for companies to make money by inviting people to rely on them , and t…

I agree. But I'm not sure what the solution is. A lot of people will say "Hey, it's a private company", and as a libertarian minded person I tend to agree. But increasingly these private companies have more power of my life than my own government does, and it's accelerating further it seems.

This is where libertarianism ends up abutting to anarchism (or left libertarianism if you prefer); the recognition that governments are not the only power structure capable of trampling the individual.

Fun fact! The word “libertarian” was self consciously co-opted by the libertarian right in the 1960s by Murray Rothbard, who viewed that co-option as an important part of his war with the left.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by fuzzfactor »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #359

Don't rely on Google Drive if your documents are important, or of academic significance or whatever. Period. Google can lock your account for any reason. If you value your data and privacy, don't use Google drive or one drive or icloud or anything like that. When will people learn their lesson?

It's not a cloud.

That's only the icon.

It's just somebody else's computer.

_Not yours_ is the keyword.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by fuzzfactor »

JanisL wrote: post #344
zamadatix wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you use for maps?

OpenStreetMap can be quite good: https://www.openstreetmap.org

Mapquest is still good.

Google was better when they first got going, but has since declined well below Mapquest.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by [deleted] »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #346
exporectomy wrote: post #327

It's possible he really did violate Google's "Program Policies" which are utterly ridiculous: "If storing or distributing content related to terrorism for an educational, documentary, scientific, or artistic purpose be mindful to provide enough information so viewers understand the context." So a random photo of a ute with the ISIS logo on the side might be a violation if you don't also write some commentary explaini…

You've employed a strawman fallacy; you took a policy which is on its face pretty reasonable: "be mindful to provide enough information so viewers understand the context" and hyperbolized it, to put it mildly, into: "you are forced to write some commentary explaining what it's about and assuring everyone that you aren't..." Context is the opposite of "an explicit statement spelling it all out." Maybe I post photos of…

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