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Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by Talanes »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #346
exporectomy wrote: post #327

It's possible he really did violate Google's "Program Policies" which are utterly ridiculous: "If storing or distributing content related to terrorism for an educational, documentary, scientific, or artistic purpose be mindful to provide enough information so viewers understand the context." So a random photo of a ute with the ISIS logo on the side might be a violation if you don't also write some commentary explaini…

You've employed a strawman fallacy; you took a policy which is on its face pretty reasonable: "be mindful to provide enough information so viewers understand the context" and hyperbolized it, to put it mildly, into: "you are forced to write some commentary explaining what it's about and assuring everyone that you aren't..." Context is the opposite of "an explicit statement spelling it all out." Maybe I post photos of…

>Context is the opposite of "an explicit statement spelling it all out."

Just because the context is very explicit does not mean that it's not context. Is it additional information that clarifies the primary info? Then it's context.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by BeetleB »

Ansil849 wrote: post #330
intricatedetail wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you rent a flat, can landlord take your belongings because he thinks you have drugs?

If you rent a flat without a contract, absolutely. Which is why I specifically said: > f you are storing your data with a third party, and you do not have an iron legal contract with this third party, then that third party can and will do whatever it wants with your data

> If you rent a flat without a contract, absolutely.

In many jurisdictions, absolutely not.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

Gigachad wrote: post #331
ajb wrote: post #97

One of the simplest functions of a justice system - before impartial judgement, before detailed laws, before qualified advocates - is simply the right to summon a powerful person to justify their actions. Increasingly it seems that we will need this to be applied here, ideally in some simpler and less costly way than a full trial. It is just wrong for companies to make money by inviting people to rely on them , and t…

IMO there needs to be some kind of minimum allowed customer support when handling user data. If you can't provide real support for free, then remove the free plan. If everyone has to then they are all equal again. It's just wrong to trick people in to trusting a service with their data and then yanking it with no support contact.

Having recently dealt with what I’m assuming are a meatbag support team from Microsoft (specifically their business partnership program), I can honestly say there’s not much difference between a bunch of useless meatbags and no support whatsoever.

It took me 4 weeks to sign up for a service which requires few business details and proof of a domain by form of an invoice.

For a reason I don’t understand, it has no bearing on the rest of the registration process whatsoever, I just gave them proof of some unrelated random domain I own.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

dimitrios1 wrote: post #324
noxer wrote: post #265

Daily reminder that you need backups Daily reminder that online stored files should be encrypted (no bot would have found anything it doesnt like) Daily reminder that google is know for this and should not be used unless for a third backup or something.

Daily reminder that a former sitting president is still banned from a major social media network yet we are blessed with updates from literal terrorists, so when another big tech co keeps their eyes open for "terrorists" you know it's a facade to impose their draconian wishes, and remind us proletariat who really is in charge. Daily reminder that big tech is the biggest threat to democracy we face today, even bigger…

I’m my eyes, trump was a terrorist.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by BHSPitMonkey »

jjulius wrote: post #85
bserge wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are the worst pirates I've ever heard of.

What a terribly inaccurate, sweeping generalization.

(Pretty sure it was just a joke reference to 'Pirates of the Caribbean'.)

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by Syonyk »

dude3 wrote: post #350

While not Google Drive, today my Ad words account was suddenly suspended because of non payment. No warning just a suspension. I have a 100% Valid credit card number on my account. I need to submit an appeal and then I get a vague "because of Covid 19" we can't respond even though we know Google has hired a record number of contractors and folks in the US this year. Something isn't right.

Interesting - I got a sternly worded warning about the billing information for my GCE account this evening, and after looking and verifying that the credit card on file was, in fact, still my credit card, and not remotely close to expired, I shrugged. The VM I run there as a freebie instance for a few things isn't that important, it would be annoying to lose it, but... I'd just spin up another VM somewhere else for the purpose.

I don't think I had the option to appeal, but they've also not actually terminated the VM yet, and I'm up to date on my billing according to their system so... shrug

Someone pushed a billing update without testing it properly first and it got confused, most likely. I expect a "Please ignore our last email..." sort of message tomorrow.

Actually, now that I look... https://status.cloud.google.com/

> [Under Investigation] Customers may receive "Payment failed" notifications.

> Error Message: “Your payment information could not be processed. Visit the payment overview page to make sure your payment information is up to date and to pay any outstanding charges.”

I wonder if it's more widespread and you got caught in the same thing.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by perl4ever »

filoleg wrote: post #175
Avicebron wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope I'm not the only one who got a little squeamish at this...I understand the logic, "don't let people transfer/share things that are illegal". But it doesn't sit right that 1) A gigantic private company operating across most of the world/laws/jurisdictions/precedents etc...is in charge of determining (with little to no human oversight) what can and can't be shared between individuals. Who might even be in compet…

>But it doesn't sit right Your argument makes sense, and I share your feelings on an emotional level, but at this point, the whole argument can be reduced to "sharing video files streamed from google drive is an equivalent of hosting a video on youtube, so the same rules apply", and that's hard to beat. If you want to store whatever material you want for personal consumption, you are welcome to. But if you enable sha…

>you are effectively turning it into a personal youtube that is still hosted by google

Then logically, why should it be available ad free either?

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by cdash »

Ansil849 wrote: post #330
intricatedetail wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you rent a flat, can landlord take your belongings because he thinks you have drugs?

If you rent a flat without a contract, absolutely. Which is why I specifically said: > f you are storing your data with a third party, and you do not have an iron legal contract with this third party, then that third party can and will do whatever it wants with your data

No, this is generally where the government steps in and dictates what is allowed contract or not.

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by throw_m239339 »

Don't rely on Google Drive if your documents are important, or of academic significance or whatever. Period. Google can lock your account for any reason. If you value your data and privacy, don't use Google drive or one drive or icloud or anything like that. When will people learn their lesson?

Re: Google Drive of historical footage locked and flagged as terrorist activity

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Post by dude3 »

Syonyk wrote: post #356
dude3 wrote: post #350

While not Google Drive, today my Ad words account was suddenly suspended because of non payment. No warning just a suspension. I have a 100% Valid credit card number on my account. I need to submit an appeal and then I get a vague "because of Covid 19" we can't respond even though we know Google has hired a record number of contractors and folks in the US this year. Something isn't right.

Interesting - I got a sternly worded warning about the billing information for my GCE account this evening, and after looking and verifying that the credit card on file was, in fact, still my credit card, and not remotely close to expired, I shrugged. The VM I run there as a freebie instance for a few things isn't that important, it would be annoying to lose it, but... I'd just spin up another VM somewhere else for t…

GP! I also received a billing failure on Google Cloud etc at approximately 6pm PST.
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