The OP talks about how they are going to now only switch the cpu/ram/whatever every year. I feel a cpu is quite an expensive/resource intensive thing to make compared to a cheap plastic case. So while maybe not as bad as an entire device, it still seems pretty wasteful.
The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
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Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
#802Been extremely happy with mine the past couple months. The little modular port attachments seemed like a novelty at first, but now it feels absurd that you'd buy a laptop with a bunch of "hardcoded" ports that you can't ever change. The only real Linux related quirk I've run into so far is that you have to disable panel self refresh (it's on by default and causes stuttering). Other than that tiny thing I pretty much…
Rossmann was excited by it too:
Very entertaining, and enlightening watch.
(A comment on the initial part of the video: Lenovo's X1 Carbon Nano has good aspect ratio screen.)
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#803> I'm finding it really hard to reliably hit the right region on my trackpad to get the left-, center- and middle-buttons. I've drawn little hints on in sharpie, and I'm working with Canonical, who make Ubuntu, on remapping the button areas.
Does the trackpad not support pressing anywhere with 1, 2, and 3 fingers for left, right, and middle click, respectively? I'm hoping that it's supported, but the author just doesn't want to use that kind of setup.
Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
#804Been extremely happy with mine the past couple months. The little modular port attachments seemed like a novelty at first, but now it feels absurd that you'd buy a laptop with a bunch of "hardcoded" ports that you can't ever change. The only real Linux related quirk I've run into so far is that you have to disable panel self refresh (it's on by default and causes stuttering). Other than that tiny thing I pretty much…
How are thermals though? My xps 13 with 2 fans can get hot enough to be unconfortable, so i can't imagine how it will be with a single fan
I really wish people talked about this stuff more when it comes to laptops. Hot temps and loud fans are a super turn-off for me. I'm willing to compromise performance for a quieter, cooler runtime, but usually all I can find out about a laptop is its processor clock speed and a horribly inaccurate battery life estimate.
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#805There is an important value, implied by the repairability, that gets little attention here. When I went to Malaysia, My 7 years old Asus N550 was malfunctioning and I needed to get a new laptop. In my previous company I got a zenbook 13" and loved it, but the ones in Malaysia were only sold with 8GB ram. I've been using 16 for 7 years and there was no way to go back. I wanted 10th gen intel (For the improved integrat…
> Another reason is that the fingerprint reader has no drivers for Fedora, while Dell advertises the laptop as Linux ready.
Which XPS is it? I believe most of their fingerprint readers should be supported in recent libfprint versions.
Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
#806Been extremely happy with mine the past couple months. The little modular port attachments seemed like a novelty at first, but now it feels absurd that you'd buy a laptop with a bunch of "hardcoded" ports that you can't ever change. The only real Linux related quirk I've run into so far is that you have to disable panel self refresh (it's on by default and causes stuttering). Other than that tiny thing I pretty much…
How soon PCMCIA has been forgotten. Forgotten by hardware makers, forgotten by users. ...And Cardbus after it!
Expresscard was supposed to replace it. It's literally a pin for pin pci express slot. But the "market" spoke (more like Apple decided they were too good for useful ports) and laptops got slimmer and less able to be expanded on.
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#807> I really miss my Thinkpad Trackpoint This is one of those comments I will never understand. Every single time I have tried to use one of those things the only thought that goes through my mind is, "This is the dumbest mouse interface I have ever seen. Why would anyone ever use this thing?" And then I see comments like this. I don't get it. The ergonomics of those little nubs are awful .
Another opinion: my first laptop was a Toshiba with a trackpoint. That was awesome. I was able to move the cursor much faster and more accurately than with a normal mouse, even disregarding the time it takes to move the hand between a mouse and a keyboard. When I first had to use a touchpad, years later, I was stunned that people put up with such an experience. Nowadays I am on a Thinkpad, but I still feel like Toshiba had it figured out much better. Somehow it isn't as accurate as I remember it from back then.
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#808Earlier quoted context omitted.
The almost square aspect ratio really bugs me. Would have tried it out if not for that
For me, that is a selling point! Widescreen is nice for movies, but when coding or browsing more lines is way more useful.
Hear, hear! When coding (or reading) vertical space is much more important than horizontal space. Reading 300 characters wide is impossible, consequently also code also has to have shorter lines. So if your screen is ultra-wide, you either split it into areas (for which laptop screen is not big enough) or just waste a part of it. Vertical space, OTOH, is almost always used 100%. That's why I have all my widescreen displays in portrait mode too - still enough horizontal space and amazing abundance of vertical space!
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#810The baseline, preassembled model starts at $1000. Windows 10 Home, quad-core i5, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB storage, a nice 2256x1504 display, thin and light (1.3kg, 11.7" x 9" x 0.6"). Compare that to your other thin and light options at this pricepoint. XPS 13, $1020 * i5 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 1920 x 1200 display * 1.2 kg, 11.6" x 7.8" x 0.6" MacBook Pro: $1300 * M1 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 2560 x 1600 display *…
Early adopters, hardcore techies may love repairability but they will buy whatever comes out next. What counts is the majority of buyers after these techies. It's similar the early buyers of a Tesla who could say "ahh it will be so eco I don't have to buy another car for 10 years" and, 3 years later they buy themselves the new model as they would have normally do with a combustion engine car. Consumers first. The key…
As a "wealthy techie", I have the opposite view: as much as it's not difficult to me to buy the things I need or want, I hate the amount of waste generated by replacing things before they need to be replaced. I currently have a 2018 Dell XPS13. I really want a Framework laptop, but my current laptop works well enough (I wish it had more RAM and a larger SSD, though, which is a big part of why I want a new one), and it's hard to justify that waste, even if I can sell or give my old laptop away to someone else who needs it.