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The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by habeebtc »

mikenew wrote: post #124

Been extremely happy with mine the past couple months. The little modular port attachments seemed like a novelty at first, but now it feels absurd that you'd buy a laptop with a bunch of "hardcoded" ports that you can't ever change. The only real Linux related quirk I've run into so far is that you have to disable panel self refresh (it's on by default and causes stuttering). Other than that tiny thing I pretty much…

How soon PCMCIA has been forgotten.

Forgotten by hardware makers, forgotten by users.

...And Cardbus after it!

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Post by sbierwagen »

nomel wrote: post #423
paxys wrote: post #407

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The modular port is a universal port with dongles. Except that (1) it doesn't take extra space outside of your computer, (2) it is cheaper than mainstream dongles (Apple sells USB-C to HDMI for $70 while the Framework HDMI expansion is $20), and (3) it is fully open source and you can actually print/sell your own.

> Apple sells USB-C to HDMI for $70 Luckily, USB-C means you don't have to buy any accessory from Apple, and have the world of low cost peripherals at your disposal, like the $13 version on Amazon [1]. 1. https://www.amazon.com/gp/slredirect/picassoRedirect.html/re...

And how many different $13 cables and hundreds of fake reviews do you have to wade through before you find one that works?

Efficient markets hypothesis. Apple's cable costs $70 because it's guaranteed to work.

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Post by PolCPP »

mikenew wrote: post #124

Been extremely happy with mine the past couple months. The little modular port attachments seemed like a novelty at first, but now it feels absurd that you'd buy a laptop with a bunch of "hardcoded" ports that you can't ever change. The only real Linux related quirk I've run into so far is that you have to disable panel self refresh (it's on by default and causes stuttering). Other than that tiny thing I pretty much…

How are thermals though?

My xps 13 with 2 fans can get hot enough to be unconfortable, so i can't imagine how it will be with a single fan

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Post by CameronNemo »

krrrh wrote: post #529
destitude wrote: post #258

Annoys the crap out of me that Apple tries to claim how "environmentally friendly" they are and yet the biggest problem is they make all their computers be disposable and extremely difficult to repair. They've gone out of their way to do this by soldering in memory and SSD, gluing batteries in, etc. Shame on them.

Putting upgradeability aside, Macs typically have longer usable lifespans as evinced by their relatively high resale value. Anecdotally, it's common to find 5-7 year old MacBooks being used by their original owners (I'm typing on one right now), and Apple will offer around ⅓ of the original value on a 5 year old machine as a no hassle trade-in because their refurb partners are able to sell them (you can usually get m…

While this is true, the kind of people that run Linux are often on even older hardware.

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Post by [deleted] »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #645
ricardobeat wrote: post #513

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It doesn't look like a no-brainer to me (already a Mac user). The MBP has a better screen, better battery life, performance, has a metal body, is completely silent and has nicer software. That said, you should get the Air instead which is $999 with almost exactly the same specs, minus the annoying touch bar, and a tad lighter at 1.29kg.

> performance https://wccftech.com/intel-and-amd-x86-mobility-cpus-destroy...

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Post by makeitdouble »

tailspin2019 wrote: post #702
makeitdouble wrote: post #686

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As a hardware nerd and standard laptop user I love the M1. As a dev, I feel it's not ready yet on the software support side. It will eventually come, but if we follow the "don't buy now on the promise of future updates" principle, right now not being on AMD/Intel is a downside.

So I’m currently on Intel Macs and looking to move to an M1 imminently (holding out to see what MacBook announcements come this autumn). What are the biggest issues you’ve seen so far from a dev perspective? The Framework laptop has seriously got me considering moving away from macOS to Linux as a daily dev machine and keeping my Macs for home use (and music production for which I don’t want to leave Logic Pro). But…

For perspective, I moved to the mac because I didn’t enjoy compiling from source or debug install logs.

I use homebrew, and a number of stuff is still on x86 only, needing to run in a Rosetta terminal. My ruby install is one of these.

For php, php-brew couldn’t build the version I need till the end, so I bailed out of it and moved it to docker. Same for mysql 5 (upper versions seem to be available for the M1).

That was right when Hashicorp announced the Desktop pricing change, and I didn’t know what my org would do so I started checking the other options. Except docker-machine/engine is supported independently only on Intel, M1 chips need docker desktop to run containers (at least that’s my take, I’d love to be wrong).

Basically right now my local dev relies on Rosetta and docker, and I seriously think about buying an intel NUC as a side machine where I’d remote into.

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Post by DiabloD3 »

trainsplanes wrote: post #632
DiabloD3 wrote: post #608

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Actually, that's the issue with my MBPR from 2012: it has a 2560x1600 screen, as in, highly non-standard. It is neither 1920 wide, nor is it 16:9. If I had the option to have purchased it with 1920x1080, I would have.

> If I had the option to have purchased it with 1920x1080, I would have. For what purpose? I can’t imagine a single advantage to lower resolution.

If it was 1920 wide of any height of at least 1080, I can now display 1080p media with no scaling (its really hard to get players to not scale while full-screening, and scaling from 1920 wide to 2560 wide can never work well, even with high quality Jinc or even cutting edge machine learning scalers); but also, just streaming desktops that are already on standard monitors.
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