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The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by kjaftaedi »

Johnny555 wrote: post #194

What are the long term prospects for this company? I'd like to have a repairable/upgradable laptop, but if they go out of business in a year, it's not much of an improvement over a Macbook... granted, it'd be some improvement since I could replace/upgrade commodity components like RAM or the hard drive but if the motherboard or display fails, I have to buy a new laptop.

Seems like what they have is in high demand and they only have an ANSI keyboard, which is only really used by the US and China (and people that don't mind limitations)

Once they offer an ISO keyboard layout, you would expect demand to be even higher.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by fouc »

mike_ivanov wrote: post #550
fouc wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

poster is probably referring to this: https://images.idgesg.net/images/article/2019/11/16in-macboo... The left, right, and down arrow keys all on one level, and the up arrow key alone above the down arrow key. Makes it easy to find the right key by touch alone.

This is what I need. Not what Apple offers. MacBook arrow keys are unusable.

That is the old macbook keyboard (before late-2015), and they brought it back with the m1 macbooks.

Basically late-2015 to 2020 macbooks had shitty keyboards.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by RandyRanderson »

freedomben wrote: post #542
FullyFunctional wrote: post #474

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny to me that you'd want what I consider one of the worst thing about the Apple keyboard: the arrow keys. Having the half-size up-down buttons means I have far more mistakes on those. Thankfully CapsLock-p and CapsLock-n works as well (I remapped CapsLock to Control of course)

My thoughts exactly. I cursed those arrow keys every day for the 12 months my employer forced me to use a mac. Never did get used to it.

As @fouc points out, I meant this kb:

"poster is probably referring to this: https://images.idgesg.net/images/article/2019/11/16in-macboo..."

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by zerocrates »

clajiness wrote: post #752
lisper wrote: post #749

I was this close to ordering one but then I noticed that you can’t get one without windows preinstalled. :-(

Yes, you can. Check out the "Framework Laptop DIY Edition". You can select to have it built without an OS.

Though it's worth noting that when you do this you also don't have the SSD, RAM, or WiFi modules installed either. Though on the plus side you can choose not to buy those components from Framework and just supply your own, if you want.

I bought the DIY edition for a combination of wanting to bring my own components and not pay for Windows, and generally liking a little bit of tinkering. Installing the stupid little WiFi module antenna connectors was the only annoying part.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by RandyRanderson »

oblio wrote: post #479
RandyRanderson wrote: post #103

Very exciting. Hoping they will make something similar with: . 15 or 16 inch chassis . 4k display (OLED, if possible) . largest battery they allow on an airplane . no keypad . 2x speakers facing up . AMD, if possible . arrow keys as Apple does it . charge a premium for this - ppl will pay it!!! Basically just copy what Apple does but with a little customization. I know this would be difficult but hoping someone from…

> no keypad I don't see the keypad.

For some reason laptops that don't have a numpad at 13", they almost always do on 15+ inch versions.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by lisper »

clajiness wrote: post #752
lisper wrote: post #749

I was this close to ordering one but then I noticed that you can’t get one without windows preinstalled. :-(

Yes, you can. Check out the "Framework Laptop DIY Edition". You can select to have it built without an OS.

Ah. I stand corrected. Thank you!

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by mrjin »

biztos wrote: post #515
strix_varius wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it hilarious that we spend multiple thousands of dollars on sleek, elegant hardware and then hook up chunky plastic dongles to overcome their bad hardware interfaces. So I love the idea of these ports (agreed, they're basically "recessed dongles"). I couldn't lose them / forget them. They wouldn't take up space in my bag while I'm traveling. I could "set and forget" them to perfectly match whatever desktop / d…

The crazy thing here is that it’s not so hard to hit the standard set of “pro” ports — USB-C x 4 (new standard blabla) USB-A x 2 SD x 1 HDMI x 1 Phone/Mic I applaud the modular approach but Apple’s donglevision was the pure distillation of user-hostility between the Bean-Counter in Chief and the SVP, Thin Stuff. And all the industrial sheep who followed them. May we all recover…

USB-C is much more complicated than most of us would anticipate, I would prefer to make it more specific: 2 Thunderbolt and 2 USB 3.2 gen 1. And I don't know when was the last time I used SD, let's save it for something else. And on a computer, I would prefer DP or mini-DB over HDMI.
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