How does a “6th generation” fighter still have a human inside? What’s so generational about it?
The next generation of bullshit military spending? A trillion for Afghanistan and F-35 each . Jeez, what could we have built with $2 trillion in investments? What cool companies, technologies or infrastructure could have sprung from this?
6th Generation Stealth Fighter: Joint Effort by UK, Japan, Italy and Sweden?
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Re: 6th Generation Stealth Fighter: Joint Effort by UK, Japan, Italy and Sweden?
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The last 70 or so years have been the most peaceful in human history. IRAQ WAR (2003-2011) WAR IN AFGHANISTAN (2001-PRESENT) GULF WAR (1990-1991) VIETNAM WAR (1959-1975) KOREAN WAR (1950-1953) This is ignoring an entire array of coups, rebellions, brutal suppressions and subjugations encompassing basically every country in South America The last 70 years have only seemed peaceful because your the one doing the geno…
Relatively is the keyword here.
Re: 6th Generation Stealth Fighter: Joint Effort by UK, Japan, Italy and Sweden?
#83War is in part an expression of technological competitive advantage. Nth generation weaponry is expensive because technology requires the best minds, materials, and facilities that money can buy. But what if for the same money, or less, we could buy something even better? How much does peace cost? Has anybody ever costed it? For example, what could $2 trillion have bought in Iraq, Portland, or Jerusalem if it had bee…
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The last 70 or so years have been the most peaceful in human history. IRAQ WAR (2003-2011) WAR IN AFGHANISTAN (2001-PRESENT) GULF WAR (1990-1991) VIETNAM WAR (1959-1975) KOREAN WAR (1950-1953) This is ignoring an entire array of coups, rebellions, brutal suppressions and subjugations encompassing basically every country in South America The last 70 years have only seemed peaceful because your the one doing the geno…
You are surely aware that there were FAR more wars before this. War was basically just a fact of life for most people in most of our settled past.
I could try and argue India is now a better place because the period know as Pax Britannica almost gave them the toilet but you'd rightly consider me a mad man.
Do you think any of the places listed above were improved by being turned in to weapon testing ranges?
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't be so eager to throw our tax money into this pit.
As an European taxpayer, I'm certainly concerned that resources are wasted. OTOH, Putin has time and again proved that he's a belligerent crook entirely willing to expand his territory any time his neighbors show weakness. Much as I wish it were different, Europe must be able to mount a credible defense, with or without the USA.
Re: 6th Generation Stealth Fighter: Joint Effort by UK, Japan, Italy and Sweden?
#86War is in part an expression of technological competitive advantage. Nth generation weaponry is expensive because technology requires the best minds, materials, and facilities that money can buy. But what if for the same money, or less, we could buy something even better? How much does peace cost? Has anybody ever costed it? For example, what could $2 trillion have bought in Iraq, Portland, or Jerusalem if it had bee…
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
However, I would expect drones to be reusable and not of the self-destruct type like a cruise-missile, so that you get at least those drones back that were not shot down, and/or have them attack more than only a single target.
Sweden has reusable torpedos. Most torpedos can be tested, but Sweden’s are routinely testable and that’s a very different capability. And as the torpedos become more autonomous, they become drones that can act like torpedos if the opportunity presents. Similar parallels can be drawn to the Iranian attack on Saudi refineries recently. The line between cruise missiles and drones blurred. So, yes, there is a move towar…
Re: 6th Generation Stealth Fighter: Joint Effort by UK, Japan, Italy and Sweden?
#88Re: 6th Generation Stealth Fighter: Joint Effort by UK, Japan, Italy and Sweden?
#89How does a “6th generation” fighter still have a human inside? What’s so generational about it?
The next generation of bullshit military spending? A trillion for Afghanistan and F-35 each . Jeez, what could we have built with $2 trillion in investments? What cool companies, technologies or infrastructure could have sprung from this?
Re: 6th Generation Stealth Fighter: Joint Effort by UK, Japan, Italy and Sweden?
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sweden has reusable torpedos. Most torpedos can be tested, but Sweden’s are routinely testable and that’s a very different capability. And as the torpedos become more autonomous, they become drones that can act like torpedos if the opportunity presents. Similar parallels can be drawn to the Iranian attack on Saudi refineries recently. The line between cruise missiles and drones blurred. So, yes, there is a move towar…
If I remember correctly, most of the torpedos of the Western Allies of WWII failed. Did not work.
There was similar lack of faith in the British tigerfish in the 80s.
But generally modern torpedos are expected to work effectively and are tested.
Sweden is leading the way on the dronification of torpedos.