Google, Apple remove Navalny app from stores as Russian elections begin

Post by boudin » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 1:37 PM UTC

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No it is not that obvious and that's my whole point. The real goal of their app store is not user convenience, security or safety, it's to be able to fully control what the user can and cannot do. They created the perfect environment to enforce this kind of decision, because that's what their real goal is, this kind of news shows it. They need to remove all freedom from their users, to feel safe as a business in any…

I think it's obvious. You can tell that by Apple not being a criminal organisation.

Post by ByteWelder » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 1:38 PM UTC

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Following laws in countries that one is operating is expected. However, following laws that contradict one’s marketing materials will lead to some understandable questions about those “values”.

Well do you have a copy of Apple's marketing material from Russia saying that won't censor the app store if compelled to do so by the Russian government? It not reasonable to hold Apple to pledges they've made to western customers, when talking about a service provided to non-western customers. As much as we wish it wasn't true, the scope for providing privacy is substantially greater in the west than it is elsewhere…

Post by mcdevilkiller » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 1:45 PM UTC

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Which features? getUserMedia is now supported in WebViews, so one can build, for instance, a FaceTime competitor that runs on Chrome on iOS, where it wasn't possible a few months ago. But the Fullscreen API still isn't supported, a blow to the web-based FT competitor. What else?

Isn't Chrome on iOS, just like every other browser on iOS, just Safari?

Post by maxwell » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 1:47 PM UTC

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Which features? getUserMedia is now supported in WebViews, so one can build, for instance, a FaceTime competitor that runs on Chrome on iOS, where it wasn't possible a few months ago. But the Fullscreen API still isn't supported, a blow to the web-based FT competitor. What else?

Push notifications are impossible on iOS PWAs. Basically takes out a big chunk of possible apps you could build on this, no one wants e.g. a messenger that can't notify you when you get a message.

Post by leesalminen » Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 1:48 PM UTC

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But Google did pull out of China, did that improve the situation in China? Meanwhile Apple makes billions in China and barely anyone says anything. If you're Google you're looking at that like a raw deal.

Yes Google pulling out instead of censoring search results and spying on users for the government made things better for people in China. Apple scan your photos. Tells you what apps you are allowed to install and charges you extra for all of that. Whatever type of person is left on the platform is more likely to be going through stockholm syndrome and wouldn't be in a situation to make a political statement.