I think this reporting is dancing around the issue, that the vaccine supply is most concentrated in countries that have essentially reached their maximum vaccination percentage. By not providing access to those developing or smaller countries, larger countries are shooting themselves in the proverbial global foot. I don’t think countries like the US and Canada aren’t trying to do that, I just think these experts woul…
If you are continually exposed to COVID-19, wouldn’t you effectively be “re-upping” your immune system every time there is additional exposure?
Vaccine experts: Covid-19 booster shots aren't needed now
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Re: Vaccine experts: Covid-19 booster shots aren't needed now
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
yeah ideally that should happen :) Just it hasn't so the choice isn't "use locally or send abroad" it's "use locally or let them go to waste" TBF I guess this must be a really complex logistical challenge.
Not sure about logistics, so. Sure it i challenging, but there are well established vaccination programms run by expierenced NOGs in developing countries already. These folks would, I guess, be really happy to take those doses and set something up. They are also rather capable of doing so. initially, that was part of the EUs over-ordering. Take those doses and give them to poorer countries. Good for public health, go…
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok well you can't beat Gibraltar at 99%. But you look at other countries. New Zealand is a good one. Their hospitals are getting swamped with kids right now with severe RSV. Why? They've had their immune systems degraded from some of the most severe lockdowns I the planet. And admittedly they aren't in a covid spike but the effective lockdown has created other problems.
This shouldn't be down voted. It appears to be correct and is a subject of active concern in NZ. https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2021/08/02/fight-against-...
Re: Vaccine experts: Covid-19 booster shots aren't needed now
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
sounds like another policy/politicized blanket statement not based on science. Have they tested levels of anti-bodies? Why is Israel with its early high vaccinations levels doing third shots?
>sounds like another policy/politicized blanket statement not based on science. Or, it is public health advice based on science, looking at what they believe would be the most effective policy globally. They aren’t saying it does or doesn’t affect the level of antibodies. They aren’t arguing that it is effective or ineffective at boosting an individual’s immunity. You seem to be fundamentally confused about what they…
Re: Vaccine experts: Covid-19 booster shots aren't needed now
#155The whole booster conversation seems like a political game. If you have a vaccine, then your risk of death is far below that of the flu (statistically). If you don't have a vaccine by now, you want covid instead and this booster conversation is irrelevant. Kids are banned from taking anything. So I expect booster or no booster, frankly it just won't matter much at the population scale. I also don't understand the mas…
I believe a serious issue with your “protect the unvaccinated” statement is it overlooks the amount of pressure they exert on our shared medical system. If your hospital beds are overrun with unvaccinated Covid patients, there is less room for others.
https://news.yahoo.com/57-percent-vaccinated-covid-19-203448...
Re: Vaccine experts: Covid-19 booster shots aren't needed now
#156The whole booster conversation seems like a political game. If you have a vaccine, then your risk of death is far below that of the flu (statistically). If you don't have a vaccine by now, you want covid instead and this booster conversation is irrelevant. Kids are banned from taking anything. So I expect booster or no booster, frankly it just won't matter much at the population scale. I also don't understand the mas…
I believe a serious issue with your “protect the unvaccinated” statement is it overlooks the amount of pressure they exert on our shared medical system. If your hospital beds are overrun with unvaccinated Covid patients, there is less room for others.
Was in Jackson Hole for Labor Day weekend. They border Idaho, whose voluntarily unvaccinated have filled its hospitals. In four days I met as many nurses and one doctor who quit out of frustration. They could no longer empathise with their patients, each describing a visceral anger at tending to ICUs of COVID patients, all unvaccinated.
Re: Vaccine experts: Covid-19 booster shots aren't needed now
#157I think this reporting is dancing around the issue, that the vaccine supply is most concentrated in countries that have essentially reached their maximum vaccination percentage. By not providing access to those developing or smaller countries, larger countries are shooting themselves in the proverbial global foot. I don’t think countries like the US and Canada aren’t trying to do that, I just think these experts woul…
Re: Vaccine experts: Covid-19 booster shots aren't needed now
#158There is not strong evidence supporting a 3rd booster dose in immunocompetent people. We have partly seen a misinterpretation of the Israeli data [1] and specifically the single low effectiveness value that appears to be the result of Simpson's Paradox [2]. Dr. Fauci reported this single value decline from the high nineties to the high seventies on Andy Slavitt's podcast [3]. Pfizer's CEO has promoted this same data,…
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_F6vV0XoAMbaNO?format=jpg&name=...
I guess ignoring data to push an agenda can be defined as "misinterpretation", fair enough. Carry on.
Re: Vaccine experts: Covid-19 booster shots aren't needed now
#159There is not strong evidence supporting a 3rd booster dose in immunocompetent people. We have partly seen a misinterpretation of the Israeli data [1] and specifically the single low effectiveness value that appears to be the result of Simpson's Paradox [2]. Dr. Fauci reported this single value decline from the high nineties to the high seventies on Andy Slavitt's podcast [3]. Pfizer's CEO has promoted this same data,…
> a strong indicator that the U.S. will follow the same path. British Columbia's Dr. Bonnie Henry indicated yesterday [4] that ...an even stronger indicator is that the Biden administration seems to have asked two multi-decade long FDA vaccine approval experts to resign following them authoring this report saying that the evidence didn't support the widespread use of boosters as a public health measure.
Re: Vaccine experts: Covid-19 booster shots aren't needed now
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
> All alone, the spike protein is harmless (From your [2]) This is a lie. The spike protein has been shown to cause cardiovascular issues.
> This is a lie. The spike protein has been shown to cause cardiovascular issues. [Citation needed]
Almost necessarily less harmful than the complete virus, but the spike protein isn’t entirely harmless it seems.