20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes off at airports?

Post by YeGoblynQueenne » Wed, Sep 08, 2021, 9:24 PM UTC

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At the time of writing, "Arms" was muskets. So you've already stated that it isn't reasonable to allow the other "arms". So why is anything more than a single shot barrel-loaded rifle allowed? Of course the reason is that there is a massive industry in making guns and a rabid source of people that can be scared into buying their wares. The reason the laws are the way they are is because of the economics of the lobby…

What about e.g. https://wryheat.wordpress.com/2018/03/14/multi-shot-assault-... ? It's unreasonable to restrict ownership of arms unless you want to restrict violence to the government and organized criminals, which the founders most certainly did not intend. Police killed more Americans in 2019 than mass shooters, how can you make an argument in favor of the cops and courts controlling weaponry? Did you miss the pol…

Post by tinus_hn » Wed, Sep 08, 2021, 9:38 PM UTC

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> Although there were also fewer COVID-19 cases in villages with cloth masks as compared to control villages, the difference was not statistically significant. This means you can’t draw conclusions from this finding apart from that any difference there actually is is really small.

You can't draw conclusions from that study... yet that is exactly what you did in declaring masks to be ineffective.

Post by xyzzy21 » Wed, Sep 08, 2021, 10:02 PM UTC

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> improve mental health I think that this is a poor target. How do you set out directly targeting mental health? What are the biggest causes of mental health issues? https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/learn/index.htm CDC lists causes such as childhood trauma, trauma from medical issues, biological factors, alcohol or drugs, and loneliness or isolation. How do you set out to tackle loneliness or isolation? How do you he…

Have you tried doing more than nothing? On many occasions in the past, I’ve found that doing anything often works better than doing nothing, like the US usually advocates. Turns out that there are no perfect solutions, but there are a lot of partial solutions that in aggregate add up to the mental health the rest of the developed world has.

Post by abnipl » Wed, Sep 08, 2021, 10:12 PM UTC

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Sure but then politics becomes about controlling what's on those tests.

That's a good thing. Having a giant political flamewar about how critical thinking should work has good potential to result in mutual destruction. If you really play it out in your head, critical thinking is pretty hard to abuse because it tends to lean away from blind trust. Every trick that could be taught to get people not to trust your enemy, is one less way you can take advantage of them yourself.

Post by finnh » Wed, Sep 08, 2021, 10:18 PM UTC

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One of those is a conspiracy theory. The other isn't. WMD?

I was talking in the context of 9/11, not all the yellowcake stuff. IIRC the 9/11 commission report shows some evidence that intelligence was aware of a possible attack, but the administration didn’t act. Some people took this to mean the intel was deliberately ignored, which is the part that seems conspiratorial.