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Docker Desktop no longer free for large companies

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Re: Docker Desktop no longer free for large companies

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Hey sorry about that, can you send me the ticket details justin @ docker.com and I can look into it.

Policy success is directly dependent on how we handle requests for exception. Granting exceptions undermines people’s sense of fairness, and sets a precedent precedent that undermines future policy. In environments where exceptions become normalized, leaders often find that issuing writs of exception—for policies they themselves have designed—starts to swallow up much of their time. Organizations spending significant…

Thanks for posting, ordered a copy just now

Re: Docker Desktop no longer free for large companies

#143
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Since they've buried it a little: "Specifically, small businesses (fewer than 250 employees AND less than $10 million in revenue) may continue to use Docker Desktop with Docker Personal for free. The use of Docker Desktop in large businesses, however, requires a Pro, Team, or Business paid subscription, starting at $5 per user per month."

Anyone know how they plan to enforce this? Audits into the IP space connecting to hub.docker.com? Maybe arbitrary device OS detection a la (nmap -O $local_subnet | grep -ci 'Macbook') > 250

They won’t need to. The number of 250+ engineer businesses that would risk running unlicensed software is small.

Re: Docker Desktop no longer free for large companies

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I've been using Minikube's docker-engine and haven't missed DockerForMac for some time now. Minikube sets up a Linux VM using MacOS Hypervisor. It even has a convenience command to configure docker-cli/docker-client. $ minikube docker-env export DOCKER_TLS_VERIFY="1" export DOCKER_HOST="tcp://192.168.65.11:2376" export DOCKER_CERT_PATH="/Users/wibble/.minikube/certs" export MINIKUBE_ACTIVE_DOCKERD="minikube" For corp…

But what minikube backend are you using for this? The preferred one is Docker and all the others are also paid on Mac.

Re: Docker Desktop no longer free for large companies

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This appears to be cutting of their nose to spite their face. We have a team of 50+ engineers that all use Docker for Mac for daily development tasks, but I suspect that will no longer be true in a rather short amount of time. Frankly, I don’t really know if anybody actually uses the UI components for it outside of starting and stopping the engine and for basic configuration of the VM. Everything else that comes with…

For the Mac, just get Canonical’s Multipass ( http://multipass.run ) and do an apt-get to install Docker into a VM and use VS Code to “remote” to it. It will automatically install the Docker extension inside the Linux VM and you’re set. For Windows, use WSL2 and do the same. Both can mount “local” folders, although the setup is obviously different. You now have a better way to manage containers than ever before.

Why don't you just use the VM directly?

Re: Docker Desktop no longer free for large companies

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So unless I'm missing something important, why not just use docker engine directly on a wsl2 instance?

Is that working? Does wsl2 provide more than a shell?

WSL2 uses a full Linux VM running under HyperV.

Re: Docker Desktop no longer free for large companies

#147
We use Docker Desktop for the Mac at work. (Large company)

Docker for Mac absolutely sucks. If they’re going to force everyone to pay they better start fixing bugs.

They recently stopped allowing skipping a release unless you pay, and then promptly shipped a point release with a showstopper bug.

I literally asked IT for a Linux VM/Cloud machine yesterday for development because my Mac is dead in the water due to a bug. It’s time efficient to develop on the Mac if it works, but the overall experience is terrible compared to Linux on the desktop IMO.

Re: Docker Desktop no longer free for large companies

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So many people in this thread don’t understand how enterprise decisions get made. The business license costs $21/month, probably less in reality. Do you really think that businesses are going to jeopardize the workflows of their $250k/year assets over a very core piece of software for $250/year? Any alternative has switching costs and risks. Companies will just pay this. I see so many people saying “just do these 10…

That sort of depends on the size of business under discussion. If you are a Fortune 500 with 2,000 engineers who all need licenses... half a million in licensing costs is not always the easiest sell.

Of course, that fortune 500 is going to pick up the phone and demand to pay 1/4 of that (and they'll probably get it). Enterprise sales is fun

Re: Docker Desktop no longer free for large companies

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Docker Desktop with developer environments would be a great value add if it supported Windows, macOS and Linux. As it is, we have developers in the company using Linux workstations so our Docker subscription is just for a registry. We'll be moving soon given no forthcoming Linux client.

If you are on Linux and using only the open-source bits (that's what I do) and have subscription for the registry, why would you be moving anywhere? What does this change bring that I am missing? As I understand it the change only affects Docker Desktop, which is for MacOS and Windows.

It's not this change in particular, it's that you can get paid image registries with better customer support at a lower price point and higher availability. Docker needs to value add to their bare registry product otherwise they will be outcompeted by larger companies that can offer registries as part of a larger product suite.

Unfortunately, Docker's most valuable addition, developer environments, is only for two of the three OSes used most commonly by developers in a corporate environment. No company is going to adopt a feature that can only be used by two-thirds of its workforce.

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