One of the biggest ways I use iCloud Photos is as a screensaver on my Apple TV. As I am considering alternatives to Apple products due to privacy concerns, I am looking for something that has screensaver integrations with Android TV and/or Apple TV. It seems all open source Google Photos alternatives don't have a screensaver app for any TV platform.
Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos
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I definitely empathise with the difficult in competing with the big cloud providers on price. Your service is inevitably going to end up more expensive. Having said that, I'd be interested to know how you're hosting the content. When I was looking at setting up a similar service, it seemed like you Backblaze B2+Cloudflare might well be the best combination. B2 will sell you storage at $5/TB, and you can get free band…
Pre-signed URLs generated with B2's S3 APIs are incompatible with Cloudflare at the moment. We are working around this by using a Cloudflare Worker to proxy data from B2 to the client. This is currently free if you're on the Bundled plan and Cloudflare's support has promised that when they decide to start charging, they will alert us in advance. Interestingly, Workers Unbound charges 0.045/GB which is more than B2's…
When you say incompatible, are you talking about the cache not working or something else? How are you working around this using workers?
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Pre-signed URLs generated with B2's S3 APIs are incompatible with Cloudflare at the moment. We are working around this by using a Cloudflare Worker to proxy data from B2 to the client. This is currently free if you're on the Bundled plan and Cloudflare's support has promised that when they decide to start charging, they will alert us in advance. Interestingly, Workers Unbound charges 0.045/GB which is more than B2's…
When you say incompatible, are you talking about the cache not working or something else? How are you working around this using workers?
B2 documentation suggests that after adding a CNAME (eg. cdn.ente.io) for their bucket endpoint (eg. bucket.s3.eu-central-003.backblazeb2.com), you will be able to replace the latter with the former. This breaks with the native B2 APIs with the following error:
```
{
"code": "not_found",
"message": "/api/top_level_url_mapping",
"status": 404
```
The last I checked was a few months ago, not sure if things have been fixed now.
With Workers, we simply fetch the remote resource from B2 and return it back to the client, acting as a thin proxy.
Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos
#394One of the biggest ways I use iCloud Photos is as a screensaver on my Apple TV. As I am considering alternatives to Apple products due to privacy concerns, I am looking for something that has screensaver integrations with Android TV and/or Apple TV. It seems all open source Google Photos alternatives don't have a screensaver app for any TV platform.
Thanks for the suggestion, we already have this on our roadmap[1].
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Have you tried the Synology Photos app ( https://www.synology.com/en-global/DSM70/SynologyPhotos [1]) While it does have some kinks it's surprisingly good and has the features you are looking for in a locally hosted/publicly available option. You do have to buy one of their NAS's however. I have moved over to this partly for privacy and partly due to cost (I produce way too many photos per year to store them economic…
The biggest problem I've faced with their app suite is it seems to make my disks spin 24/7, constantly seeking even if there is zero external activity. It wouldn't be such a big problem if I didn't live in a small apartment and have to listen to them seek all night. Other people have reported the issue, but it doesn't seem like they plan on addressing it.
I think it only does this until the catalogue has been indexed, depending on what options are enabled. For instance, if face matching is enabled then it has to process all of the pictures for faces and group them.
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> We realized soon that it's hard to monetize such [self-hosted product] Spot on. We iterated on a similar product in this space: "privacy preserving", "self-hosted", "open source" etc. But focused on local AI indexing & search of personal videos and photos [0], rather than backups. We ultimately shelved VideoNinja because we weren't able to find a sustainable business angle: * Non-technical people simply don't care…
Just put a price on it, ffs! Make it extensible with plugins. To gain 100% trust make it open source. I am happy to pay good money of a local, non-leaking AI based tagging software for video and photos.
I'm still not satisfied, but photoprism seems to move into the right direction here. Digikam os great of you want everything on a single machine. Shot well has other advantages. None of them have a good solution to immediately and automatically import any photo taken on your phone.
Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos
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> We realized soon that it's hard to monetize such [self-hosted product] Spot on. We iterated on a similar product in this space: "privacy preserving", "self-hosted", "open source" etc. But focused on local AI indexing & search of personal videos and photos [0], rather than backups. We ultimately shelved VideoNinja because we weren't able to find a sustainable business angle: * Non-technical people simply don't care…
> I want nothing of mine (of value) in the cloud. What's the issue with the cloud if you encrypt client-side? It's off-site backup. Isn't it too risky to have your life's work on a few drives in the same location?
And then after a year of usage it hits the news that they botched the encryption, or that they helpfully back up the encryption key in the cloud too.
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I'm in the same boat, have been watching, love that they have a businessmodel and am waiting for the time when they are covering my needs (face recognition, object / scene detection...). I'd even pay a 2$/month "lurker" subscription which has like 100mb of storage so I can check the features from time to time and support the team.
So this is a project specifically marketed as E2E encrypted, and you are "waiting for the time when they are covering my needs (face recognition, object / scene detection...)" You will be waiting a long long time for that. The only way they can do that is client side, and if they go there we are back to the last few weeks discussion of Apple's new client side image scanning shit. You do not want this service, it seem…
What do you mean a long, long time?
Increasingly powerful GPU compute being released and constantly improving image recognition models out in the wild. I'd bet there's a nicely packaged, open source solution released in under 3 years.
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I can pay for a terabyte of Amazon Glacier for $50/year. Amazon Deep Glacier is $12 per month. $300/year for 2TB isn't happening. I can buy a 12TB HDD for less, if I shop around. I'd like a service like this to keep small, well-compressed 1080p or 4k photos available for instant access, and original files in archival storage of some kind. I'm totally glad to pay the $10/year for the baseline service, and another $12…
> I can pay for a terabyte of Amazon Glacier for $50/year. Amazon Deep Glacier is $12 per month. You can pay even less to store that data in /dev/null. To make a more realistic comparison you should also include data retrieval & data transfer costs. Reading a terabyte from those services costs around $100.
I can think of close to zero times when I would need my full photo collection, in full resolution, all at once. In most cases, for showing photos, even 1080p highly-compressed is fine. In rare cases, I want to edit an old photo, and I want the original RAW file in full color depth and resolution.
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Why is it such a great reply? They didn't really answer my question.
I liked the clarity of response. Public models, not user data seems a clear answer to your question?
Not really. In fact it might suggest something I'm specifically more worried about. Datasets that we use in research aren't really appropriate in production. They have a lot of biases that we don't exactly care about in research but you do in production that can also get you into a lot of political and cultural trouble. So really if they are going to just use public datasets and not create their own then I expect a substantially low performance, potential trouble ahead, and I'm concerned about who is running their machine learning operations.