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Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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I'll bite. I think you've got a really really promising product here. The one thing I'd add is that at least from initial testing, the iOS app doesn't detect and offer to backup nested albums. Specifically, I have an album with another album nested inside, and then another three albums nested inside that. The first album and second album contain no photos, but the 3rd level down does, and the app doesn't see them. Ot…

But forgotten to sign commits and establish a trust chain.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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post #220

I'll bite. I think you've got a really really promising product here. The one thing I'd add is that at least from initial testing, the iOS app doesn't detect and offer to backup nested albums. Specifically, I have an album with another album nested inside, and then another three albums nested inside that. The first album and second album contain no photos, but the 3rd level down does, and the app doesn't see them. Ot…

We hadn't tested out nested albums scenario you pointed out yet, will get this fixed.

Thank you for the feedback! :)

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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I fully agree. It's a hard sell getting people to switch from an evil but known cloud provider to an unknown cloud provider that claims to not be evil. What we do not need is more cloud offerings that can change, vanish or lock us out at the blink of an algorithm's eye. What we need, rather, are reliable and easy-to-use solutions that allow us to retain full control of our data (i.e. self-hosted and offline) while ha…

What about Google photos is evil? I don't get it.

The other day I sent out a link made with Google Photos' "create link" function. That's not a share to another user, just a link that anyone can open, no Google account required. But one person showed me that hitting that link on her phone, Google wanted to authenticate her before showing the picture.

That is utterly unacceptable.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Hey, so the project had initially started off as a self-hostable software (with an option to buy a pre-configured device). We realized soon that it's hard to monetize such a product in the consumer space to the point where it can become self-sustaining. We don't have a problem with offering a self-hosted variant. But given our limited engineering bandwidth we had to take a call on who our target market should be, and…

> We realized soon that it's hard to monetize such [self-hosted product] Spot on. We iterated on a similar product in this space: "privacy preserving", "self-hosted", "open source" etc. But focused on local AI indexing & search of personal videos and photos [0], rather than backups. We ultimately shelved VideoNinja because we weren't able to find a sustainable business angle: * Non-technical people simply don't care…

I’d pay for this if it could run locally. Not sure what it would take to be sustainable but solving this problem is worth at least $20/month to me.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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I’d love for something like this to exist (a fast, clean, well-designed mobile and desktop app for backing up my photos with E2E), but I’d only switch from one of the big providers if it were FOSS and I can bring my own backend target (e.g. S3, SMB, FTP). In a perfect scenario I could generate my own private key to plug into my client devices and just have everything push to private S3 (and then from there archive to…

Well you can, I wrote how here:

https://redbeardlab.com/2021/08/03/my-syncthing-setup-cheap-...

The nice thing is that S3QL allows setting a secret key, so your files just get encrypted before to be pushed on the cloud.

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what are currently the best open source projects that allow you to fully automate and manage deployment of your own personal (or multi-user) cloud photos/drive storage service? I found: [1]: https://github.com/nextcloud [2]: https://github.com/Piwigo with S3 extension: https://piwigo.org/ext/extension_view.php?eid=691 [3]: others https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/the-big-alternatives-to-google-photos-showdown/…

Or, just syncthing, if you don't need a specializes photo web interface. They apparently added support for client-side support recently, so you can put it on some random vserver as well.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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I’ve been watching this project for a long time and personally am very excited. The fact that it’s #1 on HN today (congrats!) makes me think I’m not the only one. There are also a lot of valid concerns in these comments about privacy and use of algorithms. A lot of it depends on what you’re looking to gain by adopting a new service/switching away from something else and individual concern. Personally, I’m looking for…

I'm in the same boat, have been watching, love that they have a businessmodel and am waiting for the time when they are covering my needs (face recognition, object / scene detection...). I'd even pay a 2$/month "lurker" subscription which has like 100mb of storage so I can check the features from time to time and support the team.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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I like how Joplin does it for notes. You authorize them as an application in Dropbox or give them credentials to a S3 bucket. Don't get me wrong. I want to pay for your service. I just have to be able to access and decrypt my files if you had to shut down your service all of a sudden.

Our pricing model is such that the product can self sustain itself. Also, we have a desktop app[1] that syncs your uploaded data to a local drive, so you don't have to worry about a lock-in. But even if we do have to sunset the service due to unforeseeable reasons, our cold storage is relatively inexpensive and we will give our customers ample time to migrate out. Also, in such a scenario we would want to publish our…

I see where you're coming from and I really appreciate that you're taking the time to respond. I know it's unlikely for a service like this to shut down from one day to the next but it's not impossible, plus the whole thing about a service having the ability to shut me out of my own data, that's just scary. And many of us are already paying for storage on Dropbox and have secondary backups set up for instance. I'm just saying that this would probably convince more people to switch, leveraging a service they're already paying for plus whatever you're charging to facilitate - less than the full service with storage would cost but enough to make you some money as well. Again, offering privacy in a field that was previously devoid of it is a great step in the right direction.
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