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Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by tw04 »

pkursawe wrote: post #212
Radim wrote: post #166

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> We realized soon that it's hard to monetize such [self-hosted product] Spot on. We iterated on a similar product in this space: "privacy preserving", "self-hosted", "open source" etc. But focused on local AI indexing & search of personal videos and photos [0], rather than backups. We ultimately shelved VideoNinja because we weren't able to find a sustainable business angle: * Non-technical people simply don't care…

Just put a price on it, ffs! Make it extensible with plugins. To gain 100% trust make it open source. I am happy to pay good money of a local, non-leaking AI based tagging software for video and photos.

> To gain 100% trust make it open source.

I think until they've got a customer base and a proven model a happy median is to put the code in escrow and agree to give the source to paid licensees should the project be abandoned/more than x months without updates/whatever.

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Post by dexterdog »

Chilko wrote: post #236
Roritharr wrote: post #229

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I'm in the same boat, have been watching, love that they have a businessmodel and am waiting for the time when they are covering my needs (face recognition, object / scene detection...). I'd even pay a 2$/month "lurker" subscription which has like 100mb of storage so I can check the features from time to time and support the team.

Looking at their pricing for €0.99 / month you can get 10gb storage, so go at it!

Storage is cheaper on S3

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by bigiain »

Roritharr wrote: post #229
mrobins wrote: post #123

I’ve been watching this project for a long time and personally am very excited. The fact that it’s #1 on HN today (congrats!) makes me think I’m not the only one. There are also a lot of valid concerns in these comments about privacy and use of algorithms. A lot of it depends on what you’re looking to gain by adopting a new service/switching away from something else and individual concern. Personally, I’m looking for…

I'm in the same boat, have been watching, love that they have a businessmodel and am waiting for the time when they are covering my needs (face recognition, object / scene detection...). I'd even pay a 2$/month "lurker" subscription which has like 100mb of storage so I can check the features from time to time and support the team.

So this is a project specifically marketed as E2E encrypted, and you are "waiting for the time when they are covering my needs (face recognition, object / scene detection...)"

You will be waiting a long long time for that.

The only way they can do that is client side, and if they go there we are back to the last few weeks discussion of Apple's new client side image scanning shit.

You do not want this service, it seems.

You want a non Google service who can do face recognition, and object/scene detection, but who'll pinky promise you they won't sell you out to advertisers or law enforcement or governments, even though they obviously could.

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Post by thinkloop »

noduerme wrote: post #302
Roritharr wrote: post #229

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I'm in the same boat, have been watching, love that they have a businessmodel and am waiting for the time when they are covering my needs (face recognition, object / scene detection...). I'd even pay a 2$/month "lurker" subscription which has like 100mb of storage so I can check the features from time to time and support the team.

As someone who's never used cloud-based photo browsers... I always assumed the facial recognition aspect was primarily for social media apps that try to tag known faces from a user's friends group, to put it in those people's news feeds or something. It's one reason I avoid being photographed and ask people not to tag my name to my face if they do post a photo I'm in. I'm wondering, what's the utility of facial recog…

To be able to categorize by person, ex: "list all photos of Jim".

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by bigiain »

dexterdog wrote: post #312
Chilko wrote: post #236

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Looking at their pricing for €0.99 / month you can get 10gb storage, so go at it!

Storage is cheaper on S3

If you're gonna dick them around over the difference between €0.09/GB/Month and $US0.025/GB/Month, they're probably ecstatic to not have you as a customer.

Either you're whining about their entire ecosystem of encryption, key sharing, mobile apps, desktop app, web app, etc - not being worth a cup of coffee a month "Cause I can do it all myself using S3!!!", or you're planning on storing many times more than ~200GB on their platform.

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Post by vishnumohandas »

marwis wrote: post #306
meibo wrote: post #298

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Picasa as well, though Google nowadays does a pretty great job at getting all pictures you have on your account together with https://get.google.com/albumarchive/

Pity that once uploaded there's no way to get your data back from Google. API scrambles EXIF location metatada while Takeout, besides being pain to use on an ongoing basis, fails if you store too many files.

FWIW, ente processes all of the location metadata generated by Takeout during an import via web.ente.io.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by vishnumohandas »

tw04 wrote: post #313

What file formats are supported? RAW files? Any plans to integrate with apps like Lightroom/darktable/etc?

Currently we support image/* and video/* formats. We don't have plans to integrate with professional photo editing tools yet.
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