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I don't think they would be able to do anything about it, since (from what I could infer from reading) it is zero-knowledge, so no one from the company can access the pictures. I might be wrong, though
Well, depending on legislation, they could be ordered to change the code to send the user password to them on next login for that account and then decrypt everything…
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Synology Photos is one such solution already for example.
I have Synology, actually. Is Synology Photos trustable?
My experience is that it works great, provided that you're on your local network. When away from home or traveling, less so. Maybe I could configure things better to alleviate that, I don't know, but I haven't managed to yet.
Sharing is less convenient. Trying to share a photo on-platform is a terrible experience for the receiver with multiple slow redirects, so much so that generally if you're on mobile it's easier/better to just download the photo to your device and share the photo directly. The Moments android app has a flow for doing this, which is nice. It also makes a certain amount of sense: the alternative would be others connecting to your NAS online, which is always going to be less nice than just connecting to Google photos.
The search capabilities are pretty decent. It can recognize people and tag them appropriately. It can recognize some things. In some ways, I prefer searching it over searching Google Photos. But again, only if you're on your local network with your NAS.
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Edit: see aborsy's response to me below. Looks like I'm a version behind. Maybe on-platform photo sharing is better now, I'll update the software and check it out
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#93One of the biggest reasons why I like Google Photos is all the processing that it does on photos, especially some of the features that you have mentioned (object and face detection, location clustering, image filters, ...). Now to process these photos, you would need to read them and since you are end-to-end encrypted it's up to the clients to do this processing. Would some of these features even run on mobile device…
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I have Synology, actually. Is Synology Photos trustable?
The software with these features is called Synology Moments. I use it and I mostly love it, at the very least as a backup for my Google Photos. My experience is that it works great, provided that you're on your local network. When away from home or traveling, less so. Maybe I could configure things better to alleviate that, I don't know, but I haven't managed to yet. Sharing is less convenient. Trying to share a phot…
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Yes, we have both a 100GB and a 1000GB plans, you can check them on https://ente.io/#pricing
Pricing is expensive comparing it to mega ( https://mega.io/pro ). Mega is end to end encrypted as well (Mega is 2tb for $118. Source code is also available https://mega.io/sourcecode ). Why would someone pick your service?
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I don't think they would be able to do anything about it, since (from what I could infer from reading) it is zero-knowledge, so no one from the company can access the pictures. I might be wrong, though
Well, depending on legislation, they could be ordered to change the code to send the user password to them on next login for that account and then decrypt everything…
Now, Ente could still change its web application to somehow leak the master key and not disclose the changes in the source repo. One solution for this vulnerability is to package the entire web client as a browser extension, which is what Mega is doing:
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We don't store your password's hash. Since we use authenticated encryption, clients can identify when the decryption of your masterKey fails because you used a key generated from a wrong password.
Ok, that‘s cool! But the client get‘s to download the encrypted master key without authentication, right? Doesn’t that enable easy offline attacks or is the decryption too time-consuming?
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The software with these features is called Synology Moments. I use it and I mostly love it, at the very least as a backup for my Google Photos. My experience is that it works great, provided that you're on your local network. When away from home or traveling, less so. Maybe I could configure things better to alleviate that, I don't know, but I haven't managed to yet. Sharing is less convenient. Trying to share a phot…
In DSM 7, it’s called Synology Photos!
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#100Your homepage says "protect your photos/faces etc. from algorithms" The algorithms are what makes Google Photos; Google Photos. If I wanted to just store my photos I'd throw them in a S3 bucket or Dropbox or something. Google Photos lets me automatically categorise my photos by person, lets me search my library using text search for anything (e.g. I can search 'museum' and see pictures I've taken in museums). That is…
> So you're going to implement algorithms then? Yes, we will implement the algorithms, purely on the client side, such that we don't hold indexes to your personal data. But I understand how that piece of text could have thrown you off, I'll think of ways to rephrase it. Thanks for pointing it out.