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Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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I don't think they would be able to do anything about it, since (from what I could infer from reading) it is zero-knowledge, so no one from the company can access the pictures. I might be wrong, though

Yes, and that is a problem .

What is the problem/why is there a problem?

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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This looks very good and the pricing plans are reasonable. However I want something locally hosted. I will pay to buy the software and run it on my own equipment. I really don't want to keep paying a subscription perpetually in order to store my photos.

Thanks! ente is currently not directed at an audience that has the knowledge to set up and maintain a reliable storage infrastructure. We had started off on the self-hosting route and then realized the difficulties in scaling such a product in the consumer space. So we have for now decided to direct our limited bandwidth into making the product accessible. Sorry about that.

No worries, I understand. Congrats on the launch and good luck!

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Self-hosting a zero knowledge service is probably unnecessary. If you're hosting the service, there's no need for data to be encrypted client-side. Unless, of course, you were intending on running the service on a public cloud which you didn't control, but that's something I don't think many privacy conscious folk would do. There's plenty of open source, self-hosted alternatives to Google Photos.

How do you know it's zero knowledge?

https://ente.io/transparency/

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Self-hosting a zero knowledge service is probably unnecessary. If you're hosting the service, there's no need for data to be encrypted client-side. Unless, of course, you were intending on running the service on a public cloud which you didn't control, but that's something I don't think many privacy conscious folk would do. There's plenty of open source, self-hosted alternatives to Google Photos.

How do you know it's zero knowledge?

The source code of the client-side apps appears to be available on GitHub. So if they're bluffing, it won't be too long until someone calls them out on it.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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The monthly storage costs are too high. For the price of 1TB from you (15€), I can buy more than 2 TB just about anywhere else.

Commercially, Apple and Google are both 2TB for 10 CHF and Amazon gives you unlimited as part of a Prime membership. Storage providers like Backblaze and Wasabi both charge around $5/TB and that's really the table-stakes price. For the more DIY-inclined, Hetzner sells a 2TB OwnCloud instance for 9.90€/month.

I'd prefer to buy software from you than storage. It's out of the question for me to pay you per TB but I'd consider paying a flat rate for software I then host myself.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Kudos on your launch! I just had a question: the pricing plans seem slightly pricey, is it to break even before bringing prices down, or is it due to expensive storage? If the latter, is there a self-hosted option? Also, the website looks absolutely great!

Have been hoping for something like this for probably a decade – and your product looks great. Also have a question about the pricing. I’m happy to pay at the current tiers, especially to help getting y’all bootstrapped. But I’m curious if reducing the pricing will be an objective for you as you scale? I’m not sure I see myself maintaining the current expense indefinitely or it making it easy to recommend to less tec…

The idea behind the project is to make privacy accessible. We are hopeful that we'll be able to lower the price points as we scale up and still remain profitable.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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is there a way to automatically migrate from google photos?

Yes! You can go to takeout.google.com, export your photos and drag them into https://web.ente.io. We will preserve all of the metadata Google generated.

If at all the upload flow breaks in between, just drag and drop the exported folder again, we will skip already uploaded files and resume from where we left off.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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What are your plans for when your app is found to host content such as terrorist executions, child porn, etc.? (This isn't trolling, it's something that eventually happens with every product, and I've been wanting a non-Google version myself but wondering how that kind of abuse would be dealt with.)

I don't think they would be able to do anything about it, since (from what I could infer from reading) it is zero-knowledge, so no one from the company can access the pictures. I might be wrong, though

Well, depending on legislation, they could be ordered to change the code to send the user password to them on next login for that account and then decrypt everything…

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Your homepage says "protect your photos/faces etc. from algorithms" The algorithms are what makes Google Photos; Google Photos. If I wanted to just store my photos I'd throw them in a S3 bucket or Dropbox or something. Google Photos lets me automatically categorise my photos by person, lets me search my library using text search for anything (e.g. I can search 'museum' and see pictures I've taken in museums). That is…

Those "algorithms" can run locally, on a NAS or a desktop, generate the metadata and make it available to you only on your mobile.

I can see myself paying for such software if it was mature enough.

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