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Arm China Has Gone Rogue

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Post by angelzen »

nsonha wrote: post #592
angelzen wrote: post #386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much profit does the Guatemalan subsidiary of Dole make?

point? We're talking about China, which is a very similar country to Guatemala I guess

I'm talking about US 20 years from now. Those in corporate America who think they are 'winning' today by selling out Western knowhow to China and failing to cultivate an indigenous STEM workforce are in for a big surprise when the high value add industries fade away into China, just like basic industry did. They may still run the local subsidiary of Huawei under Chinese upper management pushing overpriced Chinese surveillances to the US market, but the profits will belong to the victors and head straight to China.

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Post by catothedev »

rayiner wrote: post #44

Western executives are in over their heads dealing with China. I don't think they even realized who was holding their leashes until China decided to start yanking on them a bit.

The oddity to me is that this has been going on for at least 40+ years and people still seem surprised when something like the Arm situation occurs. Great, humorous book written a long time ago on this subject is Mr.China.

Dealing with China requires multilateral agreements to make sure companies and executives don't sell-out at the expense of the democratic open societies.

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Post by throwaway210222 »

blacktriangle wrote: post #54
rayiner wrote: post #44

Western executives are in over their heads dealing with China. I don't think they even realized who was holding their leashes until China decided to start yanking on them a bit.

I know one shouldn't attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence, but in this case I think malice is where it's at. Western executives are not so dumb to think China will play nice with them. I've never met anybody whose spent more than 2 hours working with the Chinese who thinks they are remotely trustworthy. Western execs whole plan has been to pump short term numbers, cash in, and get out before the…

> whose spent more than 2 hours working with the Chinese who thinks they are remotely trustworthy.

I dare you to a) change "Chinese" to "African Americans" and b) use your real name.

Despicable.

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Post by 908B64B197 »

klelatti wrote: post #604
908B64B197 wrote: post #360

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> Or forced to license separately with Arm UK for chips for products that are to be exported? Seems very unlikely. Or do nothing and look at their chips being turned back to sand as soon as they land in a western country.

By who and on what grounds? You need to point out a law they have actually broken.

Patent infringement, quite simply!

Custom's responsibility is to destroy counterfeit goods.

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Post by anm89 »

wonnage wrote: post #583
anm89 wrote: post #576

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Again, laughable. Care to justify that figure? That's not nearly as bad as the 16 billion Uighurs the Chinese have in camps right now.

I think you meant million instead of billion (ironic in a thread quibbling over orders of magnitude)

no, I'm pointing out how easy it is to make up numbers.

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Post by anm89 »

smhost wrote: post #577
anm89 wrote: post #576

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Again, laughable. Care to justify that figure? That's not nearly as bad as the 16 billion Uighurs the Chinese have in camps right now.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/unworthy-victims-weste... Just say you don't care. The most unbearing thing for us is that you claim to care while brutalizing and fetishizing others to justify your own crusade.

You are comparing indirect casualties from a war to people intentionally murdered in concentration camps.

You are correct. I don't find that in any way to be a compelling argument.

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Post by blacktriangle »

throwaway210222 wrote: post #623
blacktriangle wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know one shouldn't attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence, but in this case I think malice is where it's at. Western executives are not so dumb to think China will play nice with them. I've never met anybody whose spent more than 2 hours working with the Chinese who thinks they are remotely trustworthy. Western execs whole plan has been to pump short term numbers, cash in, and get out before the…

> whose spent more than 2 hours working with the Chinese who thinks they are remotely trustworthy. I dare you to a) change "Chinese" to "African Americans" and b) use your real name. Despicable.

I dare you to stop being terrified of being called a racist and observe reality, good, bad, and ugly.
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