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Post by vodkapump »

square_usual wrote: post #265
vodkapump wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My main recent annoyance is that they removed the mentions tab on mobile, and replaced it with some weird feature called stage (some sort of clubhouse ripoff where you do... livestreaming?) It placed the mentions in under the search(?!?!) tab, which adds 2 clicks, and also added significant time delays sometimes when the search tab has to load for 3-10seconds........ I have a server with lots of discord "OGs" back fr…

Th thing I hate the most about the mentions-under-search bit is that it's so unintuitive. I had a couple of pings and I looked around everywhere trying to find them, and the removal of the very helpfully labelled "@" button pissed me off. I only found out the pings were under search after I read the changelog. And for what? Discord stages are an absolute ghost town. The top ones are all "Talent shows" in bait servers…

Only time I ever see stages mentioned is when they do a paid spot with a YouTuber to do one..

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Post by lynndotpy »

dcow wrote: post #394
sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

The casual brand is great, but those loading antics are dumb. Nobody actually likes them. This is great news, Discord really, badly, needs multi account support, screen-share and video in stage channels, an alternate pricing option/model where a server can be paid for by a company or organization instead of individuals (which would remove stream quality and upload file size limits), sso support, and possibly server D…

Multi-account support is extremely important. Professors at my university have started hosting accounts on Discord, and people have been unable to make second accounts without second phone numbers.

The result being that peoples personal and professional lives have started to overlap, which (naturally) results in dangerous positions for some people.

I'm especially concerned if something like disc-cool starts up again, or the data from it gets leaked. (Disc-cool was a group that used self-bots to create a database of harvested messages, letting you search up any users message history.)

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Post by Orphis »

gefhfff wrote: post #164
tester34 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you name at least two other platforms that offer at least Decent chat (file sharing, emojis, support for code snippets), decent voice chat, decent streaming and supports PUSH2TALK button? and I personally prefer when it is not self-hosted due to DDoS risk, but it's not must have. and is e.g F/OSS? Because I'm unable to name and that's why I started using Discord

Element[0]: hast everything except probably push to talk. You can freely choose a real server and can talk to anyone on any other server. [0]: https://element.io

But you don't have push to talk, which is the killer feature for gamers. Proper push to talk will capture key presses even when the app doesn't have focus, the key difference with most other implementations.

And having that feature exposed to the web is a security nightmare. Unless you have a native app for your service, it's unlikely to ever have that functionality.

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Post by meowface »

blackearl wrote: post #399
d3nj4l wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. This is funny because my impression was that Discord users by and large hated those messages.

I'm definitely in the camp of "don't patronize me with being a 'silly' corporation". I don't believe you, you're trying to make money, trying to be pals with me grosses me out.

Yeah. As the kids say, it's "peak cringe".

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Post by NoSorryCannot »

sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

Discord doesn't even do its one thing all that well.

The client is buggy and slow.

It makes the terrible, lazy choice of blanking the window when it has a connectivity problem.

Non-standard for-pay emojis are a terrible idea. Text should be copyable, by everyone, exactly as it is.

It's not the worst among the current stable of chat solutions. I would give that award to Teams, because wow, Teams fails in just about every way, it's a spectacle really.

Each day, I am a bit surprised at how all of the major platforms fall short of expectations, because superficially it seems like a pretty tractable problem space.

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Post by 908B64B197 »

dcow wrote: post #394
sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

The casual brand is great, but those loading antics are dumb. Nobody actually likes them. This is great news, Discord really, badly, needs multi account support, screen-share and video in stage channels, an alternate pricing option/model where a server can be paid for by a company or organization instead of individuals (which would remove stream quality and upload file size limits), sso support, and possibly server D…

> multi account support

That would be great even without any business features. Some open source projects are starting to use discord and it would be nice for some users to link and use their github names and identities for these servers.

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Post by 908B64B197 »

screye wrote: post #404
sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

I wonder if discord could straight up sell/separate a 'fork' of their platform that targets a completely different audience. The 1-size-fits-all approach to social networks never seems to work. Facebook seems to have figured it out with a clear separation of the kind of lifestyles sold by each of Instagram, Facebook, Whatsapp and soon Oculus. Product companies in general know this quite well. The way to make the (ent…

> The 1-size-fits-all approach to social networks never seems to work. Facebook seems to have figured it out with a clear separation of the kind of lifestyles sold by each of Instagram, Facebook, Whatsapp and soon Oculus.

Even Facebook tried forking their own product with Campus.

https://about.fb.com/news/2020/09/introducing-facebook-campu...

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Post by [deleted] »

63 wrote: post #335
MisterTea wrote: post #317

Discord is easy to use which is why its so popular. Install, pick a name and go. I don't even remember creating an account, just typing in a nick name. Even on Void Linux Musl you can install it via flatpack, scan the qr code and you're logged in with all your servers and channels already there. You couldn't setup an IRC client that fast. My great gripe? No 3rd party clients. It's also massively bloated for my need o…

Technically there are third party clients, they just break tos and can get you banned if you're not careful. Ripcord has a lot of cool features, I just wish I could risk using it.

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Post by agumonkey »

popinman322 wrote: post #87
agumonkey wrote: post #63

I hope not, I don't like the tiny realm vibe I get on discord servers. I find it too stiff and less friendly than most webirc sites (i know irc is not 10% of discord in terms of features but even then I find the added bonuses aren't worth that negative feeling.)

What do you mean by "tiny realm vibe"? Are you on mostly smaller servers, or is it unrelated to server size? You can definitely port the crushing silence/violent turmoil dichotomy of a large freenode room to Discord with enough users.

to add a little, on IRC i often have a feeling I'm joining a topic, on discord I feel like joining a brand

people dont feel like they own #anxiety on freenode for instance..

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