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Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by octodog »

atribecalledqst wrote: post #311
dudus wrote: post #119

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MSFT Teams, Slack, Google Chat. Hate as much as you want but there's virtually no difference in terms of capabilities among these players.

We started using Teams at work and its UI is awful compared to Discord. The worst thing is notifications -- by default you get a popup for every single message that somebody sends. So then you change the settings to only pop up when somebody @s you. Good luck getting all your coworkers to do that; 90% of the time you will get a message and then just not see it for an hour because Teams didn't prompt you. Discord solv…

This is possible in teams by setting yourself to DND. You'll still see the icon in your dock but you won't get popup notifications.

Having said that I also prefer Discord, especially the drop in voice channels.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by p0nce »

sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

> the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal".

It may be worse for you, but it feels way better to me. It has been very annoying to introduce Discord in work/casual settings and see it labelled as "a gamer thing". Right call by Discord.

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Post by mattl »

gchamonlive wrote: post #310
d3nj4l wrote: post #199

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> Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. This is funny because my impression was that Discord users by and large hated those messages.

They should just have a separate platform mode. Like Discord Businesses. Discord B8s.

Bizcord

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Post by drw85 »

sadness3 wrote: post #178
hhsbz wrote: post #134

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I use discord only for gaming but the entire app was full of text strings that made me cringe. I'm glad they have got rid of them.

It didn't matter to me that half of the loading messages weren't funny. I could tell from the moment I opened the app that they understood who I was and why I was there. I was there to have fun, and they got me. Now they have started the journey to be all things to all people, and I will not be surprised if they end up as nothing to anyone.

You had fun because of a little bit of stupid jokes during loading?

Did that define your experience, or was you experience defined by what you did inside of discord after the loading screen had passed?

Why is all this bullshit important to people? Dumb gifs, emoticons everywhere, wannabe cute gamey jokes.

If you get invited to a whine tasting party with a bunch of boring stuck up people, but there is a kids-ball-pool thingie in the entrance, is the party awesome?

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Post by hurflmurfl »

dancemethis wrote: post #316
ejj28 wrote: post #38

Every single Discord-related post here I see comments about the "bad ux". I'm a heavy Discord user and I have no complaints with the UX, I find it pretty intuitive to be honest. I'm also constantly seeing people in shock that people would choose to use Discord over IRC/Matrix/Teamspeak/Mumble. I find Discord to be light years ahead of anything else available, and for an average person who's going to have a hard time…

It's proprietary and extremely hostile towards user privacy. There is no reason to use it.

> There is no reason to use it [if you value open source and privacy above everything else].

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Post by hvis »

mickael-kerjean wrote: post #299
nkrisc wrote: post #278

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Funny is relative. Personally, there was nothing humorous about those messages. I know they were trying to be funny, but it was about as funny as knock knock, who’s there?, banana! I like humor. Humor that, you know, is funny.

On my open source project ( https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/filestash ), there's a nyan cat that move around whenever the app takes more than 1s to load. I had quite a few companies contacting me to get rid of it To see the nyan cat moving around your screen, you got to throttle the bandwidth: https://demo.filestash.app/

> I had quite a few companies contacting me to get rid of it

Did you quote them your business rates?

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Post by f1refly »

ejj28 wrote: post #51
m01120893474r wrote: post #45

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> you don't have to host it I really wish you could though

A lot of the ease of using Discord comes from the fact that every server just works, and you can join using a link. If people could host their own servers I'd imagine you'd end up with poorly-hosted servers that would degrade the overall experience.

Theres only so much even an inexperienced admin can do wrong when hosting something as basic as a chat platform. The various limits a potential machine could have are very obvious immediately. If people could host their own servers the artificial limitations discord is using to extract money from its userbase would be even more incomprehensible, and the network effect wouldn't be nearly as strong because every instance would presumably have its own account registry, both points will prevent discord indefinetly from ever allowing self managed instances.

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Post by q-big »

nicoburns wrote: post #240
lotsofpulp wrote: post #203

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> but what is broken is that the people who have ultimate control of large public companies (in 90% of cases - founder controlled companies are a prominent exception) are the shareholders. And these are typically not domain experts, their main interest is in making money. So they generally see fit to appoint executives whose main objective is to make money and to remove those who care about anything else. What altern…

> What alternatives are there? Worker representation on boards is one example. Imagine if the board of public companies was 50% shareholders and 50% workers. > The most profitable public companies seem to invest quite heavily in long term investments and have long term planning. This does not seem to square with your statement. The most profitable companies yes, but not necessarily the ones making the most money for…

> Worker representation on boards is one example. Imagine if the board of public companies was 50% shareholders and 50% workers.

You are free to found a company with such a board structure. You are also free to either bootstrap it or crowdsource the necessary capital for it.

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Post by kwanbix »

sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

Honest question here. What is so good about discord? It reminds me more if IRC than a modern chat app. I really don't get it. Maybe I am missing something?
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