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Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by bee_rider »

bruce343434 wrote: post #175
alpaca128 wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's intuitive about having to click one of the tiniest buttons in a corner of the screen to disconnect voice chat? I literally killed the process a couple times when I started using Discord because I couldn't find it. Why can I double-click to join a channel but not leave with any UI in the same area? It also took me a while to figure out how to quit the damn thing. The only way seems to be right-clicking the tray…

How about clicking the bright red phone hang up button. Other than that, most chat apps minimize to tray these days. You can toggle that behavior in the settings. With your last point, I agree. It's just inherent to being an electron app I guess.

It seems obvious to me, but I've seen a number of people just sticking around in a voice channel after the chat was done.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by bwship »

Yea, it would be refreshing for a company to say, we nailed this product, we are going to now just refine it more and more perfectly to streamline it even more. But instead everyone wants to cram more things into it. The old saying was that a SAAS product isn't complete until it has it's own email server baked into it.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by unethical_ban »

tester34 wrote: post #111
hamburgerwah wrote: post #105

Discord is the classic freemium monopoly trap. They want to capture market share with a walled garden and once they do they will alter the terms to milk out every last drop of revenue they can before everyone jumps ship to the new new thing.

Could you name at least two other platforms that offer at least Decent chat (file sharing, emojis, support for code snippets), decent voice chat, decent streaming and supports PUSH2TALK button? and I personally prefer when it is not self-hosted due to DDoS risk, but it's not must have. and is e.g F/OSS? Because I'm unable to name and that's why I started using Discord

Mumble fits 2/4 of those. Chat with emoji/better drag-and-drop file sharing would be trivial I expect, with full-time developers paid to make it happen.

Seamless video streaming is harder. And like others said, Discord is pretty much spyware freemium software. Your incredible experience is being subsidized by investors and your own data.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by dcow »

sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

The casual brand is great, but those loading antics are dumb. Nobody actually likes them. This is great news, Discord really, badly, needs multi account support, screen-share and video in stage channels, an alternate pricing option/model where a server can be paid for by a company or organization instead of individuals (which would remove stream quality and upload file size limits), sso support, and possibly server DMs instead of global DMs (possibly addressing associated data segregation issues). Otherwise their product already works awesome for smaller more open minded businesses. We replaced Slack with it this week and I don’t see us going back.

Also I want to point out that nothing in the article indicates a shift to b2b. It sounds more like they are going after parteon, onlyfans, consoles, twitch, etc. I just kinda assume they will develop some more mature user management and server payment options along the way.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by jpindar »

Mengkudulangsat wrote: post #206
basisword wrote: post #197

In my limited experience Discord seems almost identical to Slack but with a much worse UI. Combine that with the fact that belonging to more than one server quickly becomes overwhelming (again, largely due to crappy UX) I’m concerned about how many communities are utilising it. Can somebody that likes it explain why it seems to be doing so well?

I don't use Discord for gaming, but I do (reluctantly) have to use it for volunteering work. One day I discovered Discord sets my status as "currently playing Game X" for everyone to see, to my horror! What an absurd privacy violation.

But it only does that if you have "display current activity as a status message" selected.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by nottorp »

capableweb wrote: post #227
Macha wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just use Firefox containers here. One tab in one container for personal, one tab in one container for more professional contexts. Having container tabs rather than private mode or separate browsers lets me have them in one window.

Yeah, you basically have multiple different browser identities that you use as a workaround since Discord doesn't support multiple identities "natively" in their own platform. So, we're right back to where this conversation started, that Discord doesn't support multiple identities.

A workaround with Firefox container tabs is too complex to bother. Not to mention it doesn't work on mobile?

Edit: and besides, I am the potential customer. They want business use, they should help. I don't even understand why I'm allowed one gaming identity.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by Applejinx »

nicoburns wrote: post #376
lotsofpulp wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those are all interesting and viable proposition, but I would not say they have any relation to the “shareholder model” as you called it in your first post I responded to. All of those proposals, and shareholders, seem like they can co exist.

It's not shareholders that I have a problem with, it's giving shareholders exclusive control of companies. They may seem like small tweaks, but you end up with a very different model.

Exactly. It's like game balance: you can have a game scenario where there's an exploit, and everyone ends up simply going with the exploit or being crushed, causing the game to become simplified to an uninteresting, uninvolving mechanical process whereupon it just dies, because it's no fun. There are a few people who think they are the big winners because they're the masters of the exploit, but they're whales in a tiny pond and are themselves stifled by how dead their environment is, and may themselves die off, still being the biggest whale in the drying-up pond, and insisting they've mastered everything that matters.

That, but capitalism.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by thiht »

globular-toast wrote: post #192
sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

> I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. IRC does one thing and does it well. Discord is the bloated mess.

Are you kidding? IRC doesn’t let you update or remove your messages, doesn’t have a permanent history, doesn’t even properly handle accounts and chan owners, doesn’t support any kind of rich text by itself, has netsplits, … what does it do well exactly? The protocol is simple and I had fun speaking on IRC through telnet when I was younger but that’s about the only good thing I have to say about it

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by blackearl »

d3nj4l wrote: post #199
sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

> Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. This is funny because my impression was that Discord users by and large hated those messages.

I'm definitely in the camp of "don't patronize me with being a 'silly' corporation". I don't believe you, you're trying to make money, trying to be pals with me grosses me out.
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