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There's a lot going on in the porn world, especially now that it's, er, democratized. Sex workers is very broad. Porn stars is a little fuzzy. Some porn stars are big names, and/or can actually act pretty well. Or excel at creating fantasies. A surprising number of cam girls just sit at their desk fully clothed, chin in hand, and the only action is their eyes darting around their monitor while bad background music ge…

"Sex workers" is synonymous with prostitution. Pornography is a form of art. "Sex artists" would make more sense. "Sex worker" sounds very pedestrian, we don't call actors or singers "theater workers". As for the girls just sitting in their desks that doesnt sound like sex-related work at all, they might as well be called cam-artists. This is a not a tiny niche anymore, there is space for more than one terms.

> Pornography is a form of art.

Pornography is as much art as streaming video games or uploading card opening videos to YouTube are a form of art.

Pornography is entertainment, and not all entertainments are art. In spite of all the more or less recent porn videos labeled "Art Porn," which, in fact, rather depicts passionate sexual intercourse, pornography cannot reasonably be considered art in the traditional sense. Pornography does not elevate your spirit, it does not make you feel a broad range of emotions, and there is no real creativity, or it is utterly limited to a mediocre plot and a few different environments.

What definition of art do you have in mind that makes you think that pornography is art?

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You know Devs can relatively easily get around 250k in NY / SF right? Trades are solid career choices but it's hard work and you expire at about the same rate as a software dev.

So sick of seeing these wildly inflated numbers, they increase after every post I'm sure. Most of us here who are software devs are not earning close to 150k, stop using a few SF salaries as the baseline for the rest of us. It is really annoying.

If you're in the US, don't be annoyed with these numbers; learn from them. If you get on LinkedIn and expect > $200k, you may be surprised by what you can achieve.

You should line up several interviews all in the same week and play the offers against one another. At least one should be over $150k, and possibly over $200k. That highest number then sets a floor that everyone else will need to rise to as you negotiate. Politely ignore claims that offers will explode; they won't. Add options/RSUs, and you may be shocked at the amount of compensation you can get.

You can actually do it.

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The big one is the BBC report that found they weren't doing a good job keeping under age people from signing up as creators and posting. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58255865

Do Visa and Mastercard ever face penalties for any crimes committed by users of their services? Probably a large percentage of their users are criminal in some way.

The relationship between payment processors and Onlyfans is a lot closer than the one between them and stores/bars etc. that are selling to underaged kids. (Also underaged drinking is a lot less intensely prosecuted than underaged porn) Usually they don't have any direct relationship with the stores at all and their card processing goes through another company that provides the machines and access to the MC/Visa/et al payment processing, that's how it was with my family's stores at least when we started taking cards, the machines all came through another company and our contract was with them.

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OnlyFans does have features that patreon doesn't that really improve the functionality for any type of creators; finer grained control over visibility of posts (you can sell things for additional money on top of the subscription cost), built in live streaming and video. Patreon is really barebones, for example to host video just for Patrons you have to go through other sites which lets users leak out the info to acce…

Patreon has a hosted video thing in beta.

That's good they really need to provide more to their users than they do now. I get why because serving video is extremely expensive but not being able to do a properly private video on platform is a big gap.

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I've actually heard that quite often and it seems anecdotally true to me, but is there actually any study to prove this?

I found this site from the torrentfreak link below and thought it was pretty cool. https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/stat/annual/2021 If you flip thru the years at least the top movies in 2018 have more downloads than the top movies in 2021. I think that can somewhat safely answer your questions. EDIT: WRONG because as a comment points out below older movies also might just have been downloaded more over time. From…

It does make some sense that movies which have been available for three years could have more downloads than movies which have been available for one year.

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The damage is already done. I was doing a photoshoot at my house with 2 models that have OnlyFans accounts. When the news hit they literally signed up for other platforms within an hour. The other platforms are capitalizing on the news and finding ways to make migration to their platform as easy as possible.

I doubt it. With all this PR and every boomer on the planet now knowing exactly what OnlyFans is... their user base will explode, and models will come right back. They couldn't have hoped for more free marketing if they tried... genius.

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As demonstrated time and again by Facebook.

And youtube. Creators constantly want to move away from youtube with it's content-id with incredibly slow appeals process that makes most types of fair use nearly impossible, it's demonetization that intransparently makes your videos unprofitable because you said the wrong word or made the wrong sound, the blatant favoritism when it comes to the "trending" page, etc. But the viewers are on youtube, and network effect…

As a viewer, I would prefer watching content on other platforms. Problem is: there's none. Someone will mention PeerTube, but no... It doesn't work as well, not easy to navigate. The whole federation thing makes it harder to find content on a platform that already doesn't have most of the well known creators.

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In Germany, all Craftsmen are just laughing. Tiler, Carpenter, electrician, etc.. all of them have enough to do, can choose their clients and their wages. I understand that HN always will tend to talk about CS, but Craftsmen are doing their 40k/year, easily. The Salary potential is just increasing.

In Germany there must be an undersupply of these laborers. Come to California and you will find electricians with years of experience, all sorts of craftsman, woodworkers, tilers, roofers, hvac specialists, approaching you with your three cans of paint and asking you for work in the home depot parking lot. Maybe that's just what happens though when you get your working experience in another country like Mexico or El…

>all sorts of craftsman, woodworkers, tilers, roofers, hvac specialists

He also does landscaping, tree removal, fence repair, house painting, trash hauling, electrical, plumbing and general dentistry (if you ask).

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