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Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #71
adriancr wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh damn... I wasn't expecting this from them... > Adult Content and Services: Pornography and other obscene materials (including literature, imagery and other media); ...

Why would a service that desperately tries to get normalized shoot itself in the leg like that and allow something controversial?

They are trying to get normalized with mainstream America, not get normalized with the usual crypto fanatics. That means they need to have access to fiat financial systems which in turn means they need to not be associated with anything the old guard generally doesn't like. That includes adult content.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by throwawaylinux »

psychometry wrote: post #57
rattray wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hard part is the banking and payments side of things. That's where a new entrant would be useful (but unfortunately also ~impossible in the US).

I'm sure these puritanical payment gateways and processors have no problem taking fees for sales of guns, cigarettes, and all varieties of snake oil. But porn? No that's simply too much!

"Well they're private companies." The pro-censorship puritans and meddlers love farming their oppression out to monopoly corporations.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by dna_polymerase »

immmmmm wrote: post #74
rootsudo wrote: post #36

My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit, and how many sexworkers really do use the platform. I knew it was a thing, I knew of the memes, but to see both sides in arms over a company vs branding, creating their own website and content - and vanity domain as well. People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. And the memes, I think they're pr…

a good friend of mine is a sex worker, a cam girl to be precise, and uses OF as it is safer than other platforms. it should be noted that she is a brilliant individual and do this job due to severe psychiatric problems that prevent her doing more "normal" jobs. she feeds one child with this money, as a lot of sex workers that are also loving moms. it is important that such platforms do exist (if they implement proper…

> it should be noted that she is a brilliant individual

it should NOT be noted. Too many good people died in the wars of past centuries to get us to the freedom and liberty we enjoy today to let any fundamentalists dictate what a normal job is and who works it.

Sex work is work and if you dislike it you'd might enjoy Afghanistan these days.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by d3nj4l »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #16
d3nj4l wrote: post #4

"Suspended" aka they're waiting for all of this to blow over.

Maybe? The timeline suggests that they got some sort of assurance from banks they work with, they will not not be bothered. Founder just blamed banks for the whole thing the other day. https://people.com/human-interest/onlyfans-founder-says-bank...

I struggle to imagine any bank suddenly deciding they're OK with adult content after all. Apart from the moral outrage risks (like the ones OnlyFans itself has been facing wrt the literal kids on their platform), they don't want to accidentally run afoul of sex trafficking laws either. There's just too many risks in adult content. It's really surprising OnlyFans got as far as it did with adult content.

Plus, something like a small company blaming banks is everyday business for those banks. It won't hurt their PR much in the long term, especially since the older, more conservative sections of the public won't care or be more supportive of the banks here. It sucks but that's how the world is.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by BarryMilo »

Jgrubb wrote: post #63
63 wrote: post #46

I'm curious how much this may have impacted their users regardless. I imagine that a lot of people learned that relying on a single platform is dangerous and how important it is to diversify your online profile. I don't think people will trust Onlyfans anymore.

Network effects will always win, regardless of the trustworthiness of the platform.

As demonstrated time and again by Facebook.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by whymauri »

CabSauce wrote: post #100
traveler01 wrote: post #66

As a Gen-Z also recently graduated (less than 5 years), I can assure you, the fact these platforms are so big is because being graduated isn't worth anything these days. You are lucky or you are not.

Getting a degree in a field that has jobs helps too.

It helps, but for many it was/is not enough. Trust me, the job search was brutal even as a computer science graduate from MIT. I had an offer and it was revoked (and companies that I had offers from pre-pandemic would not engage anymore). I'm almost certain that I have classmates who had OF at one point during the last year and I know for certain from Twitter there's Ivy League, Cal, and Stanford students on there.

Especially at the beginning of the pandemic when nobody knew how long it might last and the stock market was free diving to what was seemingly oblivion.

I guess my point is that in mid 2020, it felt like there were no degrees that had plentiful jobs short of being:

1. A close-to-graduating worker in health or medicine.

2. A finance-compatible major from a Top 15 school with exceptional math, statistics, and inference ability. Likely, previous internships. And there really weren't that many of these.

Jobs at software companies that were typically not competitive were getting flooded by top grads and early career applicants w/ 1-3 years of experience who had offers revoked or got laid off. I fought tooth and nail for the offers I got, and the company I joined ended up being terrible -- so go figure.

Now consider that there are like, 500k students *not from top schools* graduating in STEM that same year. Suddenly the 'study something useful' mantra fell apart in the matter of months (weeks?).

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Post by sethammons »

the-dude wrote: post #42
LeftHandPath wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If so, I think that's a good thing. This should bring attention to payment processors' ability to effectively kill any type of business they don't agree with. I'm not sure what the solution is. Should banks be forced to behave as a common carrier? Or do we want private companies to be able to ban the public from purchasing things like pornography and firearms by stopping adults from completing legal transactions?

Dutch banks terminated accounts of Corona-critics / anti-vax'ers / conspiracy nuts ( you choose how to call them ). I wonder if climate change critics are next.

Wow, source? I'm not opposed to looking it up, but a claim like that will come across stronger if you link something

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Post by BurningFrog »

63 wrote: post #46

I'm curious how much this may have impacted their users regardless. I imagine that a lot of people learned that relying on a single platform is dangerous and how important it is to diversify your online profile. I don't think people will trust Onlyfans anymore.

OnlyFans proved the market. Now it needs competition.

But all actors are at the mercy of a few payment providers and their regulators.

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Post by thebooktocome »

CabSauce wrote: post #100
traveler01 wrote: post #66

As a Gen-Z also recently graduated (less than 5 years), I can assure you, the fact these platforms are so big is because being graduated isn't worth anything these days. You are lucky or you are not.

Getting a degree in a field that has jobs helps too.

There are about three fields like that now.

The median bachelor's degree in math or physics obtained in 2021 is basically worthless.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by SamoyedFurFluff »

onlyfansfan wrote: post #97

A question to you entrepreneurial types. Why does an globally established and growing company with a proven business model want to raise a billion dollar investment? It's money they'll have to pay back with interest and I assume there would be other strings attached (like the high risk implied by the planned move that was now canceled). How is possibly better than organic growth at this point where they are probably…

Investments aren’t loans, so you don’t have to pay it back the way a loan might be.
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