The Coronavirus Is Here Forever

Post by SpicyLemonZest » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:38 PM UTC

yourapostasy wrote: post #576

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Long COVID exists. Personally, it's always worried me more than the risk of death from COVID. I think people who haven't had a chronic condition (including doctors) tend to underestimate the impact they can have on your life. Long COVID symptoms may not be "severe" or "serious" in a medical coding dictionary, but those terms in a medical dictionary are quite distinct from their everyday meanings. The best evidence we…

As someone in a cognitive-dominant industry on an industry board, I'm baffled why more people aren't discussing long COVID-caused brain fog here. The chances of getting long COVID once infected are better than 1 in 3,000, the odds of a US residential structure fire, an insurable event. If you live in the US, then unless you have established gold-plated short- and long-term disability insurance, then long COVID-caused…

Post by vlunkr » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:40 PM UTC

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> Turning vaccines into a political wedge issue is one of the stupidest things I've seen in my life. Something tells me that this is just history repeating. The difference here is the same as your metaphor; the world is a village and now its much easier to see that one conspiracy nut every village has that gets outcasted. The problem of course is that now those nuts can band together in the thousands thanks to worldw…

Yes, calling people nuts is a sure fire way to solve this problem. The “nuts” were also saying covid was coming and was dangerous and were called crazy xenophobes. I’m vehemently pro-vax but there are as many idiots on both sides of this issue as there are non-idiots. Note that I need to disclose that, since the scarlet letter being handed out now has the power to prevent you from being on YouTube and in some places…

Post by DangsBaldHead » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:43 PM UTC

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My household has had zero cases per capita. Population count and relative isolation make a huge difference. You can't directly compare NZ with places like Germany or the US.

When we talk about population count, maybe China is a country worth mentioning here? The success in New Zealand seems like the elephant in the room, that the Atlantic article failed to refer to. Not to mention China.

Post by paulddraper » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:44 PM UTC

beloch wrote: post #489

"The transition to endemic COVID-19 is also a psychological one. When everyone has some immunity, a COVID-19 diagnosis becomes as routine as diagnosis of strep or flu—not good news, but not a reason for particular fear or worry or embarrassment either. That means unlearning a year of messaging that said COVID-19 was not just a flu. If the confusion around the CDC dropping mask recommendations for the vaccinated earli…

Post by jokethrowaway » Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 8:45 PM UTC

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People will always be sceptical of deviations from the status quo and politicians will always be there to capitalize on those fears for substantial gains of power. We have the most educated populis in human history and we're still seeing these problems. I'm not sure how you could fix vaccines becoming a political issue without major changes to the political structure.

Vaccine refusal has not become a major partisan political issue in any other country. It happened here because of the shameless cynicism of the Republican Party and aligned media apparatus.