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Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Right. I mean how many years has Boston Dynamics been cranking at 'teaching' a robot how to walk like a human, and it's still a work in progress? But of course Musk is going to bust it out in the next 16 months at most. Just like FSD, "this year", "this year really", "this time we promise we mean this year", "this year, seriously folks".

Boston Dynamics has made some pretty incredible progress. The very first videos had Atlas and Spot "walking" but really more like controlled tripping. It was cool and impressive, but definitely in line with my idea of what was possible in robotics. The most recent video has Atlas doing parkour. It's skin crawling. It looks fake. It can jump and flip better than I ever could. It is suddenly out of step with what I eve…

> The very first videos had Atlas and Spot "walking" but really more like controlled tripping

To be fair, human walking is often described as "controlled falling".

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Haha, and then in 10 years when He announces X you will say: “since he’s had great success in pioneering self landing reusable rockets, starting a colony on Mars, pioneering the EV market, pioneering Robo taxis, making the first commercial humanoid robots, moving traffic underground, adding computers to people’s brains, he has now fallen for the idea that he can easily repeat that success in other areas like X” This…

Yeah, yeah, but aside from all that, what has Musk done for us?

He's making us all look on the bright side of life?

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Musk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required. SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like…

I feel people said the same thing about him for SpaceX and Tesla back when he was just the wacky PayPal guy. Remember SpaceX's first launch was in 2006 (before the iPhone existed!) and it's only started getting really serious traction in the past 5 years. Elon's no stranger to things that don't have any "useful form" for well over a decade. I'm quite certain he's aware of the realistic timelines, and he sells a diffe…

> as long as he expects the technology to exist at some point, the fact that he's parked a big chunk of cash in the idea gives him an advantage.

It also let's you point to two (major) successes while dismissing the Boring Company, Nuerolink, SolarCity and the Hyperloop, among others that went nowhere. Not that his sucess rate is anything to be embarrassed by, but his announcement alone doesn't lead to me expecting anything to ever be commercially available.

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I feel people said the same thing about him for SpaceX and Tesla back when he was just the wacky PayPal guy. Remember SpaceX's first launch was in 2006 (before the iPhone existed!) and it's only started getting really serious traction in the past 5 years. Elon's no stranger to things that don't have any "useful form" for well over a decade. I'm quite certain he's aware of the realistic timelines, and he sells a diffe…

I like Musk, and I've been following his progress since 2011. I always thought he seemed very intelligent and seemed to really understand what he was doing. However I have to agree with the person you are replying to. There has been the sort of myth going around that making rockets is hard. It used to be hard... 50 years ago. That is literally the technology Musk has been using for the last 20 years: 50 year old tech…

"and yes that includes reusability"

I think this is where you go astray. Reusable rockets aren't old technology. In fact, they were considered so impractical and complicated that none of the big players even tried to develop one.

In fact, even after SpaceX landed their first boosters succesfully, participants of a panel discussion organized by at an American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics Forum on Propulsion rejected the idea as being market-unjustified:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/07/expendable-rocket-bu...

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> If I had to make a bet on when it was possible, I'd say 25 years. Maybe 10 if Tesla goes all-in on robots and spends tens of billions on it, Manhattan project style. I have a decade of experience in robotics (including both humanoid robots and self-driving cars) and I think this is optimistic. Robotics is a wonderful field if you like to work on hard research problems. It is a terrible field if you're trying to inv…

If solid state battery tech takes off, it's entirely possible within a decade.

> If solid state battery tech takes off, it's entirely possible within a decade.

Your contention is that its power consumption that makes a general purpose humanoid robot impossible?

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The point is self driving, and Waymo has superior tech.

Not if it isn't available to buy. For that matter I have a highly advanced general super intelligence. You can't have it. I'm just using it to solve my kid's math homework.

Tesla let you pay for full self-driving, but they don't let you buy it. You get a glorified lane-assist.

We'll see who gets there first, my money's on Waymo. Once they do i'm sure they'll license it to car manufacturers

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Tesla has nothing to do with rockets, so that’s all irrelevant. Tesla does not make the best electric vehicles. I doubt they’re sustainable in the future with more and more competition onboarding. For example, other car manufacturers rev their models every couple of years or so across dozens of models across several geographic regions. Tesla is clearly not able to do that with their existing three models. I guess we’…

There is still no car that closely challenges 2012 Model S. Tesla has a production problem not a demand problem.

> here is still no car that closely challenges 2012 Model S. Tesla has a production problem not a demand problem.

Early gen products are often overbuilt to the point that no future products, from any manufacturer, can ever compete. Early on, it has to work. A decade later and engineer #3451 has eliminated another $0.10/unit by making all the washers 0.05mm thinner which according to the analysis of real world conditions gathered since launch means that it still lasts the 5 years it's supposed to.

The 2012 Model S had infinite free electricity at Superchargers, for instance.

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Musk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required. SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like…

Oh okay, thanks for your insights. Tell me, do you work on these problems and with a team of the top 1% of the field?

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Sure, you can say that, but name another person with a more impressive track record of actual accomplishments.

Jeff Bezos. I'll put it to you another way: if Tesla vanished tomorrow, life wouldn't really change. There may be a few brownouts in a corner of the planet as Tesla batteries vanish and power generators kick in, but life would largely be the same. EV adoption would continue sans Tesla just fine. Self-driving would probably even improve because there wouldn't be the risk of one greedy company, guinea-pigging people an…

Hi Jeff, it’s kinda cool you hang out in HN

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Haha, and then in 10 years when He announces X you will say: “since he’s had great success in pioneering self landing reusable rockets, starting a colony on Mars, pioneering the EV market, pioneering Robo taxis, making the first commercial humanoid robots, moving traffic underground, adding computers to people’s brains, he has now fallen for the idea that he can easily repeat that success in other areas like X” This…

Yeah, yeah, but aside from all that, what has Musk done for us?

I don't know, maybe Space industry, rockets, and AI?
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