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Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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post #19

Add it to the long list of Elon projects permanently in a state of releasing "next year".

Sure, you can say that, but name another person with a more impressive track record of actual accomplishments.

I can think of so many people who are radically more accomplished in vastly more interesting and important ways, it feels absurd to start listing because of how many I'd be leaving out by doing so.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

#53
Musk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required.

SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like iterative design for rockets), to capture markets that were ripe for disruption because they were controlled by a few large players who had no real incentive to improve.

Problems like level 5 self-driving and humanoid robots, in contrast, are different. We don't see these things because they are hard problems that require basic technological breakthroughs that may not yet exist. Self-driving is one of those things that's relatively easy to get 95% of the way to, but that last 5% is nearly impossible. And useful humanoid robots are probably a generation or two away from being possible; there are just all sorts of fundamental issues like energy storage, object manipulation, locomotion, etc, that are all so far beyond the current state-of-the-art that they're almost science fiction.

I don't see this happening in any useful form in the next 5-10 years.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

#55
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It needs to be compatible with all human spaces and human tools. It'll need to be general purpose to keep unit costs low. This is why the human form is the best. It's not a menial home robot. It's designed to replace humans in every kind of physical labor.

This reminds me of images from the 1900s depicting the future when there were humanoid robots with lots of arms cleaning lots of dishes at once. Of course, it turns out, we did invent a machine to wash dishes but its just called a dish washing machine and is way better at it than humans with arms. I can't imagine many tasks where a humanoid will be useful. I'm sure you could say that something like house construction…

The thing is, that this can work alongside humans. say you have 5 people bricklaying and one of those is this humanoid robot. its not a dramatic change from whats currently possible. They are a drop-in replacement.

Think of it as a stepping stone. Like automated cars, Fully automated highways are a ways off where traffic lights are no longer needed, however automated cars that work alongside the rest of the roads are feasible in the near future.

Yes there are better tools, its just a stepping stone to allow change. to force change.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

#56
post #42
post #37

Lots of negative comments here. Can someone actually comment on whether this is even remotely possible today? Or is this more than a decade away?

The answer to your question depends on whether you think level 5 autonomous vehicles is remotely possibly today or if it is a decade away.

hmm kinda there can be more randomness and chaos in driving. Depends on the initial application for the Tesla bot

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

#58
post #19

Add it to the long list of Elon projects permanently in a state of releasing "next year".

Sure, you can say that, but name another person with a more impressive track record of actual accomplishments.

I love the meme where stans come to Elon Musks' defense no matter how vanilla the criticism is.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

#59
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It needs to be compatible with all human spaces and human tools. It'll need to be general purpose to keep unit costs low. This is why the human form is the best. It's not a menial home robot. It's designed to replace humans in every kind of physical labor.

This reminds me of images from the 1900s depicting the future when there were humanoid robots with lots of arms cleaning lots of dishes at once. Of course, it turns out, we did invent a machine to wash dishes but its just called a dish washing machine and is way better at it than humans with arms. I can't imagine many tasks where a humanoid will be useful. I'm sure you could say that something like house construction…

I wouldn't say that dishwasher is _better_ at washing dishes than a human. More quantity? Sure. More quality? Not based on my experience. Lots of stains just don't come out in a dishwasher.
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