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Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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You've left out manufacturing. Building a car factory + supply chain is quite the challenge. Tesla had the best and the brightest - I've worked with them before they were acquired by Tesla on a daily basis: https://teslagrohmannautomation.de/en/ and still had trouble scaling. Manufacturing is considered to be one of the hardest things about building cars - electric or not. Edit: What's with the downvotes? Disagree? C…

> Building a car factory + supply chain is quite the challenge And yet Elon announced to the world he was going to have the most automated factory in the world, the machine that builds machines, and that the factory was the actual product. People lapped this up. 2 years later they were hand-assembling cars in a tent. Now do you see the problem? > Manufacturing is considered to be one of the hardest things about build…

They tried to do something quite crazy with manufacturing and it didn't work. Musk has often ignored industry standard and often it works. In this case it didn't and people will now use this forever to show how stupid he is.

However what happened then is that they effectively corrected their mistake, fixed their production, reached their production targets with excellent unit margins.

They learned from the episode and realized they need to reduce part count and made a whole series of innovation and if you look at how their new Model Y are going to be developed in the new factories you see a huge improvements. They developed a new alloy for casting, worked to put largest casting process into production, totally redesigned the battery for manufacturing and massively simplified the battery pack.

To the point where Tesla are quite competitive in terms of weight and ease of manufacturing. They already have industry leading unit margins and some of these innovations will only hit next year.

That part of the story somehow is never mentioned when people say 'hahahahha build cars in a tent'.

They are not doing so bad it seems:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9FARebWUAYd5NI?format=jpg&name=...

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Musk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required. SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like…

Your conclusion made me chuckle: 5-10 years isn't very long to get to a mass produced general purpose robot that's useful; and as Elon said they already make all of the components necessary - including aggressively working on AI including for visual systems - so they arguably only have refinement left and edge cases to figure out next - not a small feat but puts them 10+ years ahead of anyone who will try to copy them re: engineering talent, manufacturing, etc.

As Elon has said people are generally terrible at exponentials, and so majority of people can't see or understand the economies of scale and synergy between everything he's doing - and the compounding effect that has on reducing costs and increasing speed of scaling - which then also compound with each other.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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If Musk was really serious about this, he would start with smaller steps: 0) Finish the tentacle charging robot they demoed in 2015 (roll out to superchargers) 1) Build delivery robot on wheels using FSD (like the Starship Technology's robots). These could be used on hospitals, possibly warehouses, pizza delivery, cleaning streets, painting lanes on roads, ... 2) Build dog-like robot, like Boston Dynamics's spot with…

I disagree.

> Musk is not serious about this. Just like the boring company

Quite the claim. As usual we have the 'look at the very first prototype' its not actually perfect therefore its fake and nothing but marketing.

The Boring company is series and they are doing all kinds of things. Saying they are not series is disrespectful to the engineers that work on those machines.

I'm a shareholder and spending some resources figuring out something like humanoid robot to me is useful R&D if its a product or not.

There is no evidence that this is a significant enough distraction to be worried about leadership. They are doing exactly what they should, expanding production, working FSD and battery production working towards releasing Cybertruck and Semi.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Reveals it with a person in a suit dancing to dubstep: https://twitter.com/TESLAcharts/status/1428540624203128837?s...

This tops the Cybertruck introduction where they broke the bulletproof glass. It's hard to imagine this is not a jump-the-shark moment for Tesla.

The glass was not supposed to be built prove, maybe work on your listing comprehension.

Also, if you throw a ball like that against a normal glass on a truck it might go threw and kill you. The Cybertruck class stopped it and would have saved your live but I guess fuck them for making a saver vehicle.

And the guy in the suit was clearly a joke, unbelievable the hissy fit people are throwing over this.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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FSD has not been rolled out yet, so you’re attributing to FSD some errors that are actually made by humans. Yeah maybe these humans were confused by marketing to think it was FSD, just as you think it was FSD, but that doesn’t make it FSD.

Tesla is quite literally selling a package called "Full Self-Driving". I don't see how it has not been "rolled out yet" unless you're confusing Tesla's bullshit marketing lingo for level 5 autonomous driving.

It’s described as a future feature that you can prepay for though.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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I haven’t seen a single substantive comment in this entire thread. Way too much emotion. Why would he announce this robot if it’s real? If his intention was to turn this into a real product, what purpose is there to announcing it before he’s started? Even if he were just lying to generate hype, wouldn’t it make more sense to make a prototype and show short clips of its parts moving and actuating? There doesn’t seem t…

It was quite clear, they are trying to recruit people. The 'announced' it because they want people to show up who help them build it.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Sure, you can say that, but name another person with a more impressive track record of actual accomplishments.

It's quite interesting how people keep betting against Elon. The HN crowd should consist of mostly risk-tolerant personalities, but the majority of comments are negative. Regardless of what one might think of the feasibility, no other company in the world today are as ambitions as SpaceX and Tesla (+ Neuralink). Feels like what Apple used to be during the "one more thing"-era. Both Tesla and SpaceX has been discounte…

I'm betting against him selectively. For example I'm skeptical about Bot, Hyperloop, Neuralink or FSD happening within 5 to 10 years of the original timeline.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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What's with all the cynicism and negativity in this thread? Jeff Bezos launches a rocket - it's not impressive enough of a technological breakthrough for people who watch and judge from the sidelines. Jeff Bezos isn't using his money right. Elon Musk spends his money taking moonshots and succeeding a lot of the time, announces that he's working on an extremely exciting science-fiction-level technology - it's not real…

Personally, it's the overselling of half-baked ideas what I find annoying. I admire Musk for his entrepreneurship but at the same time I don't appreciate being treated as an idiot.

Because they want to recruit people for a robot they want to build, you feel like you are treated like an idiot?

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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I feel people said the same thing about him for SpaceX and Tesla back when he was just the wacky PayPal guy. Remember SpaceX's first launch was in 2006 (before the iPhone existed!) and it's only started getting really serious traction in the past 5 years. Elon's no stranger to things that don't have any "useful form" for well over a decade. I'm quite certain he's aware of the realistic timelines, and he sells a diffe…

Hmmm one correction, SpaceX main driver is Gwynne and I doubt SpaceX would have been even close to what it is now if not for her. Musk is there more front face for the public. Tesla is his child, but so are many other (now obviously failed) projects.

> Tesla is his child

Adopted child, if so.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Yeah then what's the point? I can already order Uber and someone drives me. The main allure of self-driving is that I have my car, that drives me around, without involving anybody else.

The point is self driving, and Waymo has superior tech.

Not if it isn't available to buy. For that matter I have a highly advanced general super intelligence. You can't have it. I'm just using it to solve my kid's math homework.
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