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Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by shawabawa3 »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #245
lazysheepherd wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you even watched the announcement? Has anyone commenting here did? He clearly said the bot v1 won't do more than carrying simple things and will be super slow and weak. It will only have very basic grasping hands, even likely with 3 fingers. It will be what grasshopper was to Falcon 9. And about autonomous driving, Tesla autopilot seems to be almost as good as Waymo, except with pure vision. And I'd bet a great…

> Tesla autopilot seems to be almost as good as Waymo Tesla's system is better, if only because you can buy it right now. Waymo has sold exactly zero of their cars, and they don't even have a plan to do that any time soon.

Waymo isn't a car manufacturer so of course they haven't sold cars

They're selling rides in phoenix though

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by lottin »

alex_munroe wrote: post #231

What's with all the cynicism and negativity in this thread? Jeff Bezos launches a rocket - it's not impressive enough of a technological breakthrough for people who watch and judge from the sidelines. Jeff Bezos isn't using his money right. Elon Musk spends his money taking moonshots and succeeding a lot of the time, announces that he's working on an extremely exciting science-fiction-level technology - it's not real…

Personally, it's the overselling of half-baked ideas what I find annoying. I admire Musk for his entrepreneurship but at the same time I don't appreciate being treated as an idiot.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by joakleaf »

nixarn wrote: post #232
joakleaf wrote: post #208

If Musk was really serious about this, he would start with smaller steps: 0) Finish the tentacle charging robot they demoed in 2015 (roll out to superchargers) 1) Build delivery robot on wheels using FSD (like the Starship Technology's robots). These could be used on hospitals, possibly warehouses, pizza delivery, cleaning streets, painting lanes on roads, ... 2) Build dog-like robot, like Boston Dynamics's spot with…

I don't see many wanting a tentacle arm, that's a waste of resources. I'm also heavily invested in Tesla, have been for years I like this alot, it's an exciting future to work towards. Will it take longer than elon says? Probably. But as long as you're moving towards the goal, it's great, one day you'll be there. I also think building a humanoid robot can interest a lot of talent, and while building this robot they'l…

We are negative, because it seems either Musk doesn't seem to fully respect and appreciate the difficulty and the steps required to build a humanoid robot, or he is lying about what he thinks is possible at the expense of customers, shareholders, and employees.

I honestly don't understand why they don't use their FSD+electic motors+battery tech and create a bunch of products on wheels; farming equipment, robotic lawnmowers, robotic vacuum cleaners, street cleaners, etc.

I think there is so much potential in autonomous farming equipment, and even the robotic cleaners could be an order of magnitude better than current products, if the FSD logic works. But maybe electric farming equipment is less feasible than a humanoid, and, obviously, cleaners are less cool.

It seems like much more feasible, useful, and lower hanging fruit with the tech they already have, compared to this. It could also create confidence in the autonomous capabilities of Tesla's FSD, and it would lead to sellable products within years instead of decades or more.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by jondiggsit »

CommieBobDole wrote: post #53

Musk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required. SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like…

It’s an ad for talent… get it now?

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by sixstringtheory »

I have no knowledge of what kind of logic is used in their FSD code, but I don't see how they can derive much of a motion planning algorithm for a humanoid robot from it. Does a car have to deal with self-collision (accidentally hitting yourself in the face with your hand) or singularities (aka "gimbal lock"/"wrist flip")? Does motion planning for a nonholonomic system like a car easily translate into a holonomic system like the human body (maybe it's easier to go in one direction vs the other, like holo->nonholo or vice-versa)?

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by ayrkm »

iloveluce wrote: post #240
notJim wrote: post #200

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> Furthermore, if you have been following closely, you would have seen the huge and humiliating mess ups he had with Tesla where he literally flushed billions and billions of dollars down the toilet. What is this in reference to?

All those manufacturing woes that happened after Elon tried to automate everything in the manufacturing process https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/elon-musk-admits-humans-are-...

That is called taking risk and pushing the limit. If it does not work, admit and learn then move on.

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Post by _ph_ »

lumens wrote: post #218
joakleaf wrote: post #208

If Musk was really serious about this, he would start with smaller steps: 0) Finish the tentacle charging robot they demoed in 2015 (roll out to superchargers) 1) Build delivery robot on wheels using FSD (like the Starship Technology's robots). These could be used on hospitals, possibly warehouses, pizza delivery, cleaning streets, painting lanes on roads, ... 2) Build dog-like robot, like Boston Dynamics's spot with…

Flipped around, but potentially the same takeaways: Turns out building a true FSD car is almost as hard as a humanoid robot. They've already got a Boston Dynamic's-like robot dog internally, but it sucks at getting around a parking lot. i.e. set your expectations of the arrival of true FSD on the car to whenever you think Tesla can actually deliver this robot.

I think you are right. The gating part in both applications is, whether you can create an AI which is "good enough" to get a real understanding of the environment.

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Post by machiaweliczny »

CommieBobDole wrote: post #53

Musk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required. SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like…

For me it seems Musk has ability to hire competent people because he can verify if you are bullshitting him down to physics. This and being bold and rich and persistent is enough for success it seems. Ah, also marketing/vision to get (more) money.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by perryizgr8 »

shawabawa3 wrote: post #261
perryizgr8 wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Tesla autopilot seems to be almost as good as Waymo Tesla's system is better, if only because you can buy it right now. Waymo has sold exactly zero of their cars, and they don't even have a plan to do that any time soon.

Waymo isn't a car manufacturer so of course they haven't sold cars They're selling rides in phoenix though

Yeah then what's the point? I can already order Uber and someone drives me. The main allure of self-driving is that I have my car, that drives me around, without involving anybody else.
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