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Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

bgentry wrote: post #5

The most disturbing part about this is that their support team has been misleading people on Twitter all morning, not truthfully answering straightforward questions about whether the app is Electron: https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425429965747720200 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425470169133031435 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425476888072495111

The thing I find totally infuriating is, this strategy of decoupling the backend business logic into a performant, cross-platform Rust service seems really smart! Now that you have decoupled brains, you could put it behind a native front end, brilliant, Adobe should have done this with their Creative Suite a decade ago.

But no, they used this strategy to support a trash cross-platform frontend. Wonderful. Will be evaluating ElPass this weekend.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by q-rews »

tzs wrote: post #37

I'm somewhat baffled and amused by how much hate Electron gets on HN when an existing app moves to it or a new app uses it while at the same time whenever editors and/or IDEs are discussed Visual Studio Code (an Electron all) is massively praised.

To be fair VS Code is one of the best Electron apps and its feature and support by vendors makes up for it. Heck you can use it in a browser (CodeSpaces) or connect to a remote instance via local app.

VS Code does laps around the "native" Nova editor.

Speed-wise it's not the best, but it's till reasonable.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by throwawaycuriou »

agloeregrets wrote: post #46
tzs wrote: post #37

I'm somewhat baffled and amused by how much hate Electron gets on HN when an existing app moves to it or a new app uses it while at the same time whenever editors and/or IDEs are discussed Visual Studio Code (an Electron all) is massively praised.

In addition to the bait and switch comment, 1Password is an always-running app. Congrats, they just decided 1500MB of your ram is theirs now.

In my experience for most Electron apps we're talking 150MB and you're exaggerating by 10x.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by jacobkg »

hs86 wrote: post #28

1Password and the Tower git client were somewhat similar: They started on native Mac first and years later introduced a native Windows version that lacked behind in features and polish. 1Password for Windows slowly(!) caught up, and even after all this investment, they decided that going for a web-based UI across all desktop OSes is the better solution. Tower did not change this: Their Windows version is still lackin…

I’ve been really enjoying Sublime Merge as a replacement for Tower

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by aniforprez »

agloeregrets wrote: post #46
tzs wrote: post #37

I'm somewhat baffled and amused by how much hate Electron gets on HN when an existing app moves to it or a new app uses it while at the same time whenever editors and/or IDEs are discussed Visual Studio Code (an Electron all) is massively praised.

In addition to the bait and switch comment, 1Password is an always-running app. Congrats, they just decided 1500MB of your ram is theirs now.

This is based on what? Poorly written apps like Slack? I'm so surprised how people make blanket statements like this. I'll wait and see how performance is affected by the change before making such uninformed judgements

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by bgentry »

radley wrote: post #55
bgentry wrote: post #5

The most disturbing part about this is that their support team has been misleading people on Twitter all morning, not truthfully answering straightforward questions about whether the app is Electron: https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425429965747720200 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425470169133031435 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425476888072495111

Uhm... each of those tweets links to the same article that states they use Electron: Finally we bundled everything using Electron to allow us to integrate deeply with the operating system.

In addition to not answering the simple question in the tweet, they linked to an article about the Linux app, which in no way clarifies whether the Mac app uses the same UI framework.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by rcarmo »

erichurkman wrote: post #59
rcarmo wrote: post #3

Like I commented the other day, they are losing me as a customer because of that - and because of "improving" the vault format so that it no longer syncs with iOS via iCloud. This is going to cause all sorts of grief when we are forced to upgrade the iOS app to align with 8 and lose the ability to sync via that. I wouldn't mind paying for a Family license if I didn't have to use their sync service - I just don't trus…

Do you have a link to read more about the loss of iCloud sync? If that's accurate, goodbye 1password. I was irked (but understood) the move into a subscription model, but this step would make no sense from a personal sec-ops perspective. While I generally am not a fan of iCloud (and how it forces certain things to sync onto devices), I really do NOT want yet another "cloud" to store incredibly sensitive info like pas…

Sure, here you go. It's buried in their community forums and dressed up as an "improvement" for "non-technical" people: https://1password.community/discussion/comment/602340/#Comme...

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

riobard wrote: post #50

I'll recommend Elpass as a much, much better alternative. Completely native to Mac and iOS, and sync via iCloud. https://elpass.app

if anyone is wondering, ElPass’s 1Password import works really well. Includes one-time MFA settings! (no secure documents, though)

first impressions, massively faster than 1Password 7. Feels "lean."

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