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They have, the removal of a standalone option was also part of this announcement.
Well, crap. I guess I'm staying on the current version for as long as possible and then considering options. I will state for the record that I think this is mindblowingly stupid.
Could someone give a bird's eye view summary of why 1Password moving to Electron is bad? Are there documented security risks, or is it more just a UX/UI aesthetic issue?
Currently 1Password's UX is just awful. - On macOS, half the time auto fill doesn't work. Saving a password is very inconsistent. - When you auto generate a password, the least resistance UI workflow is to first save and fill it - but then when you create the account it is saved again, making it a duplicate. - The "move to trash" button is obscurely hidden somehow (used to be much better). - And don't get me started…
It’s really interesting to hear these differences in experience for the same product. I wonder why it’s happening? Gotta be something going on there.
What was even the value proposition of using 1password over the native keychain access on mac? Generating passwords? Safari does this now (albeit always ignores the website's specific password rules and gets it wrong most of the time)
The most disturbing part about this is that their support team has been misleading people on Twitter all morning, not truthfully answering straightforward questions about whether the app is Electron: https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425429965747720200 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425470169133031435 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425476888072495111
Finally we bundled everything using Electron to allow us to integrate deeply with the operating system.
I'll recommend Elpass as a much, much better alternative. Completely native to Mac and iOS, and sync via iCloud. https://elpass.app
What was even the value proposition of using 1password over the native keychain access on mac? Generating passwords? Safari does this now (albeit always ignores the website's specific password rules and gets it wrong most of the time)
Another is MFA support, native keychain doesn't support that at all.
Like I commented the other day, they are losing me as a customer because of that - and because of "improving" the vault format so that it no longer syncs with iOS via iCloud. This is going to cause all sorts of grief when we are forced to upgrade the iOS app to align with 8 and lose the ability to sync via that. I wouldn't mind paying for a Family license if I didn't have to use their sync service - I just don't trus…
If that's accurate, goodbye 1password. I was irked (but understood) the move into a subscription model, but this step would make no sense from a personal sec-ops perspective. While I generally am not a fan of iCloud (and how it forces certain things to sync onto devices), I really do NOT want yet another "cloud" to store incredibly sensitive info like password vaults.
I'll recommend Elpass as a much, much better alternative. Completely native to Mac and iOS, and sync via iCloud. https://elpass.app
I've switched from 1Password to Enpass as well, however my experience is a bit... mixed...
Not sure i'd fault something specific, however the overall polish 1Password has still isn't there.
I'm using Enpass on Linux, Mac and iOS - my SO still has an 1Password 4.something install (i think) on her Windows computer.
If that one is going to somehow "expire", i'm going to selfhost Bitwarden probably...
Edit: ok, wow - there really is an App called Elpass - TIL...
Edit2: sure, bring on the downvotes :S i guess no one ever naively assumed that 2 letters almost next to each other could have been a typo.
To further explain why i assumed it was a typo is because i've never, ever heard of Elpass before - all the while being a user of password managers for years. Even more so when researching my options about 2 years ago before switching to Enpass and never heard of Elpass being mentioned, not even once.
I suppose it is pretty new-ish then? Or a hidden gem? Or gosh both?