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Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by pseudalopex »

threatofrain wrote: post #24
bgentry wrote: post #5

The most disturbing part about this is that their support team has been misleading people on Twitter all morning, not truthfully answering straightforward questions about whether the app is Electron: https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425429965747720200 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425470169133031435 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425476888072495111

I kind of don't understand why customer support would answer customer questions that way — Oh my, did you just a question about Electron? Because I swear you asked about our RUST BACKEND. Let's talk more about that.

They're like this when anyone asks about non subscription licenses too.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by pseudalopex »

kalleboo wrote: post #32
room505 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Bitwarden's desktop application use Electron? Edit: Okay, it sounds like from the comments, it does use Electron. Then my followup question is, if people are upset with 1Password moving in this direction, then Bitwarden would not be a good alternative, no?

It is, but on the Mac, one of the big selling points of 1Password was a nice, native UI. If that feature is gone, why use it over an open-source, self-hostable alternative?

People attached to the nice native UI are looking for another nice native UI.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by apple4ever »

ecf wrote: post #39
tzs wrote: post #37

I'm somewhat baffled and amused by how much hate Electron gets on HN when an existing app moves to it or a new app uses it while at the same time whenever editors and/or IDEs are discussed Visual Studio Code (an Electron all) is massively praised.

It’s pretty easy to understand. VSCode was an electron app from day one and never tried to be a first-class Mac app while the only reason 1Password is around today is because customers loved having a lightweight, native manager that always was quick to support new OS features. Essentially, native Mac apps switching to electron is a bait and switch.

And I would say VSCode has its own annoyances but due to the fact there are few other good options (that are native Mac at least) its still praised.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by apple4ever »

Ansil849 wrote: post #22

Could someone give a bird's eye view summary of why 1Password moving to Electron is bad? Are there documented security risks, or is it more just a UX/UI aesthetic issue?

It does not feel native to the OS. It does not have the same font styling, color styling, windowing behavior, and keyboard/mouse behavior as a native app.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by asdff »

What was even the value proposition of using 1password over the native keychain access on mac? Generating passwords? Safari does this now (albeit always ignores the website's specific password rules and gets it wrong most of the time)

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by agloeregrets »

tzs wrote: post #37

I'm somewhat baffled and amused by how much hate Electron gets on HN when an existing app moves to it or a new app uses it while at the same time whenever editors and/or IDEs are discussed Visual Studio Code (an Electron all) is massively praised.

In addition to the bait and switch comment, 1Password is an always-running app. Congrats, they just decided 1500MB of your ram is theirs now.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by the_optimist »

rvz wrote: post #23
bgentry wrote: post #5

The most disturbing part about this is that their support team has been misleading people on Twitter all morning, not truthfully answering straightforward questions about whether the app is Electron: https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425429965747720200 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425470169133031435 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425476888072495111

It has been painfully admitted that they are moving to Electron. Mentioning 'It's using Rust' doesn't make it any faster or efficient since at the end of the day, it is going to be slower regardless. This tweet by a user called _cprecioso is priceless of the reaction on 1Password's move to Electron. [0] [0] https://twitter.com/_cprecioso/status/1425429383880318980

Why do you think it’s going to be slower, and in comparison to what?

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

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Post by riobard »

asdff wrote: post #45

What was even the value proposition of using 1password over the native keychain access on mac? Generating passwords? Safari does this now (albeit always ignores the website's specific password rules and gets it wrong most of the time)

Better UX. System keychain UI is very primitive…
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