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> Don’t use apple SSO because apple might not exist one day? There might be a day when Apple is not _my_ cell phone platform. Even now I have an Android phone and iPad and I prefer to have access to same services from both.
You can still have an apple ID even if you never ever had even a single app device.
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What's the "pie"? FB makes money off their data. Apple seems to be providing me the service I paid for. If they made it optional, a large percentage of apps would force you to use Google/FB to login. That's not acceptable to me. One of the major reasons I give Apple money is to because they can stand up against the privacy invading FB/Google and I, as an individual, cannot. So they are very much doing what I want in…
> What's the "pie"? It's explained in my previous comment.
Not well enough for me to understand, because I asked what you meant.
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The messages sent to the "anonymous" Apple id mail are just forwarded to the user's inbox, aren't they? How is that any different from any other email address.
It isn't. My problem with AppleID is nothing more than that they forced AppleID on me. I would have voluntarily added it otherwise. But now because of this, I really really dislike it to the point that I will refuse to implement it in other platforms where it is not mandatory And I think Apple's behavior should change so I am making this public
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There is basically no benefit to app developer in including it. It is more work, and you may get only an anonymised address. However, there is massive benefit to actual users. Apple decided to prioritise users over developers here.
Trust me, I say this as a developer, if there is any indication that I am losing out on users because I don't have Apple ID, I will make sure to add it asap. That is pretty much the reason why I first included FB and Google. I first only had Google, then some people aksed for FB. The natural course would have been that then some other guys ask for Apple and I add it. But Apple decided to abuse its position and force…
As a user, I am very satisfied that Apple made this a requirement.
As a developer, I just implemented it without throwing a tantrum.
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Yup, Apple fanboiz always be deflecting. No wonder Apple doesn't need a marketing/PR dept - the fanboiz will happily come to Apple's rescue for free!
It's funny - it always seems those who use "fanboiz" or other collective terms akin, always seem to be projecting... They don't seem to be able to grasp that maybe there are different viewpoints in this world. Maybe that's even a good thing, and perhaps denigrating entire swathes of people as "fanboiz" says more about the person doing it than about the people they're complaining about. Just maybe.
You mean like you're doing?
Kettle, meet Pot.
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Yup, Apple fanboiz always be deflecting. No wonder Apple doesn't need a marketing/PR dept - the fanboiz will happily come to Apple's rescue for free!
It's funny - it always seems those who use "fanboiz" or other collective terms akin, always seem to be projecting... They don't seem to be able to grasp that maybe there are different viewpoints in this world. Maybe that's even a good thing, and perhaps denigrating entire swathes of people as "fanboiz" says more about the person doing it than about the people they're complaining about. Just maybe.
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> What's the "pie"? It's explained in my previous comment.
> It's explained in my previous comment. Not well enough for me to understand, because I asked what you meant.
Apple does the same thing. As a dev once you open the door to using Apple you're forever stuck with that. As a user, it entrenches you further into the Apple ecosystem which is ultimately the whole Apple product strategy.
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I admit to distrust. I distrust anyone who tries to downplay privacy as important. I distrust anyone who tries to brand a genuine privacy upgrade as "hype" And, frankly, signing in (with AppleID or not) doesn't prove a thing one way or another. The OP could be simply harvesting email addresses and selling them off later[+]. (S)he could be upset that HME and SIWA are a threat to that business. Far-fetched ? Sure. More…
Yup, Apple fanboiz always be deflecting. No wonder Apple doesn't need a marketing/PR dept - the fanboiz will happily come to Apple's rescue for free!
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Because dev experience isn't what my post was about. I don't agree with some of the ways Apple treats developers, but I mostly agree with how they treat users and I genuinely like (MacBook) or at least understand and respect (iPhone) their products.
What happens when Apple stops being on fire, and you are trapped in their ecosystem and can't get out? I won't argue that Apple makes the nicest and most comfortable golden cuffs, but in the end they're still chains.
- Try to export your photos from Google Photos
- Try to export you photos from Apple Photos
Let us compare those two, shall we?
Google Photos:
- stored in cloud
- no _synchronisation option_
- export exists but you loose metadata unless if you do it through API so third-party sync is not possible as well
Options to get your data back:
- Manually select all the photos in web ui and click download.
- Use google takeout option.
Apple Photos:
- Synchronisation. Go to settings and click checkbox "download everything to this Mac". Same for iPhone. Offline ready, your data is on your device.
- Export - just go menu and click "Export originals". It will conveniently organise your photos into files and folders. No internet connection required because the data _is already on your computer under your control_.
So, to answer your question. If Apple stops being on fire, I export my data in a single click and move it somewhere else if there's any option. But it will be sad day because I'm afraid that there will be no option, besides Apple the market is filled with liquid shit that treats users as cattle.
P.S. The example of photos works for everything else - my music library is synchronised and downloaded locally on multiple machines. If you've got Apple Music subscription you can drop anything in there and it'll upload it. Basically dropbox with UI of iTunes and Spotify on a side.
Same for iCloud Drive - it is downloaded locally. Heck, everything is downloaded locally, stored on my Macs and backed up with time machine. My data is under _my_ control when I go with Apple.
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> It's explained in my previous comment. Not well enough for me to understand, because I asked what you meant.
If a dev uses a Facebook login on an app then it will never be able to remove it again as users won't be able to log in. Similarly, if it uses Facebook comments, these cannot be removed from a website as the content would be lost. Apple does the same thing. As a dev once you open the door to using Apple you're forever stuck with that. As a user, it entrenches you further into the Apple ecosystem which is ultimately t…
I like this result as a user.