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Because he retroactively sued the founders and got himself named a founder, he was an early investor but uninvolved I. The first prototype.
Actually this is not the correct sentiment. Elon musk was definitely responsible for the design decisions and success of roadster+ and what tesla ended up being. The early prototype didn’t really have anything super novel and the roadster and other cars weren’t like, a ripoff or remix of whatever prototypes they had. It was a company that was generally setting out to take advantage of high voltage high current switch…
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At what point does someone who is consistently a dick become a diagnosable sociopath?
That's for psychiatrists with a personal familiarity with the patient to determine. A reputable professional wouldn't diagnose from a distance and everyone else is covered by HIPAA.
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That's for psychiatrists with a personal familiarity with the patient to determine. A reputable professional wouldn't diagnose from a distance and everyone else is covered by HIPAA.
Well that's super convenient for sociopaths, glad we're ensuring that they don't suffer from any criticism at all. Same with the assholes who get misdiagnosed from a distance as sociopaths. Must protect our most vulnerable members of society.
This is what's known as a strawman.
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Sandy Munro, by now, is a Tesla shill who can't be taken seriously. Andrej works at Tesla and understandably says nothing bad about his boss. If I thought my boss was technically clueless and needed to say something nice about him, I would probably phrase it the same way: "He's obviously a pretty incredible person in many ways. I'm still trying to really map out his superpowers. He has incredibly well developed intui…
Sandy Munro, by now, is a Tesla shill who can't be taken seriously. I've seen him say quite negative things about Tesla, and quite positive things about Tesla's competitors. Examples: He stated that the Ford Mach-E battery case is a structural component. He's also touted injection molding as a means of achieving some of the same things that Tesla is doing with aluminum casting. He praised some aspects of the ID4 moto…
What I've seen from him, he always shows a clear bias towards Tesla.
> Can you give me an example of something Sandy Munro has said which IS NOT something good about a Tesla product, where he has clearly sacrificed engineering concerns?
When I say he's a Tesla shill, it's specifically because of the positive things he says about Tesla.
For example, here [1] he claims that the FSD Beta is currently at level 4 and "full self-driving" is just around the corner. Do you agree with that?
[1] https://twitter.com/alex_avoigt/status/1388838246705152001
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Yeah I guess decent people are dummies for not wanting to live in the world made in the wake of geniuses like you and Harvey Weinstein.
I wouldn't use the word "decent" for someone who pokes their nose at your use of the F-word and voice intonation. I would rather use "control freaks".
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>It wasn’t funny to call a guy trying to rescue trapped children a “pedo” That guy first told Elon to stick his small submarine up his own ass, so maybe he shouldn't have told "a guy trying to rescue trapped children" to sodomize himself with a very large object?
That submarine really was a bad design and a distraction from the rescue effort. He swooped in knowing zero about cave diving and produced something that only worked in a pool demo. He could have instead offered to help, quietly behind the scenes, and asked the team if could be of assistance, but he went internet-celebrity mode and splashed all his showerthoughts in real time all over twitter. That was attention-whor…
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Musk seems to be more of an asshole, like someone affecting an exaggerated version of his image of Steve Jobs. There are entirely valid critiques of Steve Jobs. His overly restrictive and proprietary technology being a major one. But the myth that he was some kind of social monster is ahistorical. Steve Jobs was very opinionated, honest, and unafraid to tell people what he thought. At times he was overly harsh, no do…
Maybe you need to look into what he did to his first born daughter, I think that will change your perspective
He accidentally got his girlfriend pregnant at age 23, freaked out about her keeping the baby, acted like a petulant child about it, and then shortly afterwards realized his mistake and took responsibility in every way possible. His daughter became an intimate part of his new family, for decades, and was there when he died.
As far as we know, this is the worst thing he ever did in his entire life. He made this mistake at 23 years old and spent the rest of his life trying his best to make up for it. What more could anyone ask?
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That submarine really was a bad design and a distraction from the rescue effort. He swooped in knowing zero about cave diving and produced something that only worked in a pool demo. He could have instead offered to help, quietly behind the scenes, and asked the team if could be of assistance, but he went internet-celebrity mode and splashed all his showerthoughts in real time all over twitter. That was attention-whor…
And the diver could have pointed out the issues with it instead telling him to stick it up his ass.
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Look at SpaceX/Starbase. The dude is crazy. He accelerated development over a week or two and the time series of photos of the site show epic progress. They installed 29 (!) Raptor engines in a single night with incredibly complex plumbing. They had 23 people working inside the diameter of the rocket. Granted, he is rushing the SuperHeavy orbital build with reckless abandon, and a bad weld or connection somewhere mea…
Left out of your comment is the true hero of SpaceX: Gwynne Shotwell, who saved SpaceX from Musk's excesses and turned it into the highly profitable company it is today with a string of successful launches. Shotwell is the reason that SpaceX was able to install 29 Raptor engines in a single night to satisfy Musk's whims. Every launch failure that SpaceX has had in the past few years? That's Musk, gallivanting in at t…
Certainly Shotwell has made the business and operational side of the Space Falcon business smooth and helped win commercial/government contracts. But do you really think it is shotwell who is aggressively asking people to throw away designs, delete components, and iterate quickly by getting rid of testing steps? She is more of a Tim Cook than a Steve Jobs.
Look at this 1 hour q&A at Starbase, time index 13:30, there's no way this five stages of engineering comes from Shotwell. It's not her personality, but Musk's instincts here are absolutely correct.
And it's the number one reason why SpaceX made it to orbit, and Blue Origin didn't, and why Starliner is taking forever. Musk doesn't care about blowing up 29 raptors and blowing $50 million on a test that will most likely result in a RUD. Shotwell would never have authorized that, she is much more concerned with keeping SpaceX's finances in order and the contracts flowing, and Starship simply doesn't have many launch customers who need 100t in orbit, and where launching on Falcon 9, or Electron's is good enough.
> Shotwell is the reason that SpaceX was able to install 29 Raptor engines in a single night to satisfy Musk's whims.
Really? Based on what? The reason why they could pull that off is because Elon forced a shitload of SpaceX employees to be relocated from other parts of SpaceX to meet an arbitrary and unnecessary deadline. You think Shotwell would have ordered 24/7 round the clock booster assembly?
Keep in mind that it is Musk who insists on production automation, because his #1 priority is $/kg thrust, and so Raptor engines are pointless if you can't mass manufacture them. There is currently no economic reason for SpaceX, as a business, to mass manufacture these engines which have never been to orbit, even on a prototype demonstrator. Again, this had to have been Musk pushing for this, not a seasoned CEO/businesswoman looking to keep the company on track.
The entire Starbase is like a Google X, or Xerox PARC, it's a CEO running a big profitable company smoothly, so it can fund the crazy R&D ambitions of something else. That part Shotwell is responsible for, but there's no evidence of her involvement at all @ Starbase. She's never even been recorded being there AFAIK.
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You know that Tesla's $1 Billion/quarter profits pales in comparison to Toyota's $7 Billion/quarter, right? And yet, Tesla is "worth more" as a company than Toyota, Nissan, Volkswagen, GM, and Ford put together. And there are a myriad of long-term issues being put out on display here. Such as the FSD not working (promised "Coast-to-Coast" Full self driving back in 2017). Or the huge uptick in Model3 / Model Y quality…
Are you short the stock?