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Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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I've always found the reports of his behind the scenes behavior and its stark contrast with his public persona to be incredibly disturbing, because it paints a picture of someone with psychopathic tendencies. I suspect there's something really dark with him that originates in his childhood (suffered through horrific bullying and a hellishly awful father).

Anger is a natural human emotion. There's a time and a place for it. If you're in the NFL, on the field. If you're in the NFL of car making, on the factory floor. Tom Brady isn't so polite for 60 minutes on Sundays. Never once in my life have I met a world class performer who doesn't have some "field" where anger and profanity are permitted. If you want to be the best you can be I don't see how you can hit that witho…

a world class performer who doesn't have some "field" where anger and profanity are permitted

That "field" should never be in front of, or directed at, subordinates. The best people have peers (or walls, or chairs) to vent their frustration at.

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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Somewhat of topic but: > Tesla co-founder and CEO Elon Musk Why do people keep thinking Elon founded Tesla? Pretty sure he wasn't one of the founders, so I don't get why people think so.

He has done a good job and intentional job of making it seem like he was - and both original founders left soon after he started making active moves as an investor.

I've been a big fan but this series of videos is tempering my understanding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FGwDDc-s8

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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I've been observing one thing about Musk...

He seems to not have a surgically precise thinking at all times like some smart people do, but he is always right in the stochastic sense if you will, over longer periods of time, he tends to be exactly right.

(And I agree that he can be despicable at times. To me the "pedo" thing is unforgivable.)

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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Musk and Jobs were both extremely mean and degrading to employees. How do we reconcile the revolutionary nature of their products with the terrible behavior of their childish CEOs? Is it really that hard to calmly criticize? Maybe the stress of these duties drives susceptible personalities into berating and belittling?

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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I've always found the reports of his behind the scenes behavior and its stark contrast with his public persona to be incredibly disturbing, because it paints a picture of someone with psychopathic tendencies. I suspect there's something really dark with him that originates in his childhood (suffered through horrific bullying and a hellishly awful father).

Anger is a natural human emotion. There's a time and a place for it. If you're in the NFL, on the field. If you're in the NFL of car making, on the factory floor. Tom Brady isn't so polite for 60 minutes on Sundays. Never once in my life have I met a world class performer who doesn't have some "field" where anger and profanity are permitted. If you want to be the best you can be I don't see how you can hit that witho…

I don’t buy it. Those folks throw fits because they provide enough value to their bosses (be it a company’s board or the NFL) that they can get away with it. Everyone else is expected to act professionally and keep their emotions on check. Outbursts of anger are not a sign of genius, but a sign that the person can’t easily be replaced.

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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This may sound a bit weird but haven't you noticed they all are psychopaths? Although high functioning ones. Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezoz... These are not healthy people mentally. But they are rich and powerful.

They're not psychopaths, they're just disconnected from your perspective. They've got other stuff on their mind and it's hard for them to put themselves in your shoes. Are you a psychopath for driving your car for a holiday trip, even though there's people dying in 49 degrees heat in Greece? It's really not that different from Jeff Bezos flying his spacecraft. Not that I'm saying it's ok, obviously Bezos's company is…

My comment is tabloid-level and I'm not a psychologist. That disclaimed, it wouldn't surprise me if Elon Musk is a psychopath; it sounds like his father's personality would not benefit a child's mental health https://www.thelist.com/406823/what-we-know-about-elon-musks...

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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I've always found the reports of his behind the scenes behavior and its stark contrast with his public persona to be incredibly disturbing, because it paints a picture of someone with psychopathic tendencies. I suspect there's something really dark with him that originates in his childhood (suffered through horrific bullying and a hellishly awful father).

I talked with Jinnah Hosein who, without any prompting from me, told me Elon Musk is a certifiable psychopath based on his experience at Tesla and SpaceX. Don’t let the Saturday Night Live appearance fool you— the exterior is nothing like the what happens behind the scenes. The OP article might be a response to investor lawsuits filed against Blizzard and/or the Google lawsuit for the Andy Rubin and David Drummond ca…

What was the context for having the occasion to speak to Hosien? Can you offer more specifics about what he told you?

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It wasn’t funny to call a guy trying to rescue trapped children a “pedo”. That was very public bullying. He says a lot of stupid and hostile stuff. I’m surprised people found his public persona incongruent with the reports of abuse.

>It wasn’t funny to call a guy trying to rescue trapped children a “pedo” That guy first told Elon to stick his small submarine up his own ass, so maybe he shouldn't have told "a guy trying to rescue trapped children" to sodomize himself with a very large object?

Elon wasn’t helping anyone, he was clamoring for attention. He then made viscous and immature smears against someone actually helping. It’s incredible that someone would defend Musk on this.

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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I guess there are some true facts in this book but I am overall very skeptic of the picture the author is trying to paint or the conclusions he is drawing from those facts. For example, the book says Elon wanted to be Apple's CEO post Tesla acquisition on a phone call. But Elon said it many times over the years that he rather spend his time on engineering and design over management. Edit: Also Tim Cook mentioned in a…

> But Elon said it many times over the years that he rather spend his time on engineering and design over management But yet he is still the CEO of Tesla. Just because someone says they want to do something doesn't mean they will.

Those are not contradiction. He is the CEO of tesla because he feel like he has to otherwise tesla will die.
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