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Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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Post by mhh__ »

ProAm wrote: post #10
rebelos wrote: post #8

I've always found the reports of his behind the scenes behavior and its stark contrast with his public persona to be incredibly disturbing, because it paints a picture of someone with psychopathic tendencies. I suspect there's something really dark with him that originates in his childhood (suffered through horrific bullying and a hellishly awful father).

> stark contrast with his public persona What do you mean? He called a person a pedo in public.

Then backed down, while doubling down to a journo, if I have the chronology right.

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Post by wly_cdgr »

underseacables wrote: post #6

Oh no, a CEO yelled at employees, investors, and cut corners. Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave. I think the record shows that Tesla, and Musk, have undergone a lot of growing pains and mistakes, but the results speak for themselves.

I mean, if he actually really behaved like that, that's deeply shameful and he should resign

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Post by vkou »

rebelos wrote: post #8

I've always found the reports of his behind the scenes behavior and its stark contrast with his public persona to be incredibly disturbing, because it paints a picture of someone with psychopathic tendencies. I suspect there's something really dark with him that originates in his childhood (suffered through horrific bullying and a hellishly awful father).

I think all it paints is a picture of someone who is good at virtue signaling in public. I don't think there's a need to dig much past that.

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Post by rebelos »

ProAm wrote: post #10
rebelos wrote: post #8

I've always found the reports of his behind the scenes behavior and its stark contrast with his public persona to be incredibly disturbing, because it paints a picture of someone with psychopathic tendencies. I suspect there's something really dark with him that originates in his childhood (suffered through horrific bullying and a hellishly awful father).

> stark contrast with his public persona What do you mean? He called a person a pedo in public.

True. I guess I'm considering his public image in the aggregate, excepting those occasional blunders.

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Post by iamcreasy »

HWR_14 wrote: post #9
iamcreasy wrote: post #2

I guess there are some true facts in this book but I am overall very skeptic of the picture the author is trying to paint or the conclusions he is drawing from those facts. For example, the book says Elon wanted to be Apple's CEO post Tesla acquisition on a phone call. But Elon said it many times over the years that he rather spend his time on engineering and design over management. Edit: Also Tim Cook mentioned in a…

> Elon said it many times over the years that he rather spend his time on engineering and design over management. I'm always thrown when public figures who have an obvious incentive to lie are taken at their word in public statements. It happens all the time with politicians and CEOs. If you look at where Musk seems to add value, it's 100% in the management zone. Well, that and the other CEO duties of representing th…

In recent interviews - Sandy Munro and Andrej Karpathy vouched his technical capability.

But it appears you have made up your mind as it seems to be the simplest answer.

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Post by peakaboo »

rebelos wrote: post #8

I've always found the reports of his behind the scenes behavior and its stark contrast with his public persona to be incredibly disturbing, because it paints a picture of someone with psychopathic tendencies. I suspect there's something really dark with him that originates in his childhood (suffered through horrific bullying and a hellishly awful father).

This may sound a bit weird but haven't you noticed they all are psychopaths? Although high functioning ones. Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezoz... These are not healthy people mentally. But they are rich and powerful.

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Post by ChildOfChaos »

ProAm wrote: post #10
rebelos wrote: post #8

I've always found the reports of his behind the scenes behavior and its stark contrast with his public persona to be incredibly disturbing, because it paints a picture of someone with psychopathic tendencies. I suspect there's something really dark with him that originates in his childhood (suffered through horrific bullying and a hellishly awful father).

> stark contrast with his public persona What do you mean? He called a person a pedo in public.

Haha that was pretty funny though, an example of playing to his audience in public.

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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Post by exogeny »

underseacables wrote: post #6

Oh no, a CEO yelled at employees, investors, and cut corners. Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave. I think the record shows that Tesla, and Musk, have undergone a lot of growing pains and mistakes, but the results speak for themselves.

Yes, the results do speak for themselves: an unprofitable company with a petulant, childish troll as a CEO.

Just because you act like Steve Jobs doesn't mean that you are Steve Jobs. You can ask Adam Neumann about that.

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Post by morpheos137 »

ProAm wrote: post #10
rebelos wrote: post #8

I've always found the reports of his behind the scenes behavior and its stark contrast with his public persona to be incredibly disturbing, because it paints a picture of someone with psychopathic tendencies. I suspect there's something really dark with him that originates in his childhood (suffered through horrific bullying and a hellishly awful father).

> stark contrast with his public persona What do you mean? He called a person a pedo in public.

Yeah musk is a classic con man public and private to anybody who has a brain. Jim Jones had fans too.

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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Post by breck »

rebelos wrote: post #8

I've always found the reports of his behind the scenes behavior and its stark contrast with his public persona to be incredibly disturbing, because it paints a picture of someone with psychopathic tendencies. I suspect there's something really dark with him that originates in his childhood (suffered through horrific bullying and a hellishly awful father).

Anger is a natural human emotion.

There's a time and a place for it. If you're in the NFL, on the field. If you're in the NFL of car making, on the factory floor.

Tom Brady isn't so polite for 60 minutes on Sundays.

Never once in my life have I met a world class performer who doesn't have some "field" where anger and profanity are permitted. If you want to be the best you can be I don't see how you can hit that without utilizing one of your core emotions.

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