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Anti-Semitic social posts 'not taken down' in 80% of cases

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Re: Anti-Semitic social posts 'not taken down' in 80% of cases

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Post by raxxorrax »

hirundo wrote: post #42

I'm a Jew, a Zionist, and a knee-jerk supporter of Israel. That makes me the type of person many of these posts are hating on. But I don't think that they should be taken down. I would rather that the hatred of me and my tribe remain public and visible, so that we can see it and respond appropriately. Hiding it does not remove the sentiment or the danger. Words spoken against such hate, convincing people that it is n…

Completely agree with that. Sounds cynical, but if people didn't have some unsoclicited opinions on Jews, something would be wrong and it would be time to keep an eye out for real danger.

It also is the safer bet against censorship.

Re: Anti-Semitic social posts 'not taken down' in 80% of cases

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Post by [deleted] »

JohnWhigham wrote: post #75
sbilstein wrote: post #70

Frankly when us Jews call out anti-Semitism, the whole room stands up to tell us what is and is not anti-Semitism. Imagine doing that to LGBT folks or other minorities. I'm not even much of an Israel supporter but it is exhausting to hear a bunch of white progressives who have never set foot in the Middle East tell me I am wrong about the criticism I hear. Recently, folks at Rutgers have been criticizing Campus Hille…

If people can't criticize Israel's actions as a country without being labeled anti-Semitic, then nothing is going to get solved.

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Re: Anti-Semitic social posts 'not taken down' in 80% of cases

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Post by MattGaiser »

mattigames wrote: post #68
MattGaiser wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The report seems to steer clear of anything regarding Palestine and Israel. It is solidly about traditional Jewish conspiracy theories. https://252f2edd-1c8b-49f5-9bb2-cb57bb47e4ba.filesusr.com/ug...

That report doesn't explicitly states omitting criticism against Israel, any report about anti-semitism that isnt explicitly stating when are Israel/Palestinian conflict comments considered anti-semitism (and when are not) is lacking depth.

It wisely steers clear of a topic which would derail its point.

Re: Anti-Semitic social posts 'not taken down' in 80% of cases

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Post by slibhb »

Dobbs wrote: post #48
hirundo wrote: post #42

I'm a Jew, a Zionist, and a knee-jerk supporter of Israel. That makes me the type of person many of these posts are hating on. But I don't think that they should be taken down. I would rather that the hatred of me and my tribe remain public and visible, so that we can see it and respond appropriately. Hiding it does not remove the sentiment or the danger. Words spoken against such hate, convincing people that it is n…

The problem is that this type of content spreads like a virus faster than it can be combated with sanity and reason.

I think supressing it makes it spread. Nothing confirms the beliefs of people who see a Global Jewsh Conspiracy like having their posts deleted.

Re: Anti-Semitic social posts 'not taken down' in 80% of cases

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Post by sbilstein »

JohnWhigham wrote: post #75
sbilstein wrote: post #70

Frankly when us Jews call out anti-Semitism, the whole room stands up to tell us what is and is not anti-Semitism. Imagine doing that to LGBT folks or other minorities. I'm not even much of an Israel supporter but it is exhausting to hear a bunch of white progressives who have never set foot in the Middle East tell me I am wrong about the criticism I hear. Recently, folks at Rutgers have been criticizing Campus Hille…

If people can't criticize Israel's actions as a country without being labeled anti-Semitic, then nothing is going to get solved.

I think you missed the point of my message.

Of course plenty of criticism of Israel is valid and not anti-Semitic.

It is also true that plenty of anti-Semites love to criticize Israel.

Re: Anti-Semitic social posts 'not taken down' in 80% of cases

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Post by seattle_spring »

dahfizz wrote: post #79
seattle_spring wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly this. It's a dogwhistle for extreme anti-semites, whether the people sharing it know it or not.

Assuming you are correct, does that mean it should be impossible to criticize Soros? A group of radicals dislike him, therefore he is beyond reproach?

There's a pretty big gulf between disliking someone and spreading inane anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. Most of the "criticisms" I see of him are very much the latter, verging on Pizzagate territory.

Re: Anti-Semitic social posts 'not taken down' in 80% of cases

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Post by [deleted] »

rvz wrote: post #57
liorben-david wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was the flagged comment?

Allow me to revive the destroyed comment for the sake of the argument: > > Hate speech doesn't exist, they made up the term to shut you up. Sort of, it is difficult to draw the line somewhere because some people will disagree on the 'rules' and definition of what 'hate speech' is. > Comment was of course flagged. Because this website (like most of the internet), is controlled by the far left. Which seem to sympathize…

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Re: Anti-Semitic social posts 'not taken down' in 80% of cases

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Post by cryptica »

sbilstein wrote: post #70

Frankly when us Jews call out anti-Semitism, the whole room stands up to tell us what is and is not anti-Semitism. Imagine doing that to LGBT folks or other minorities. I'm not even much of an Israel supporter but it is exhausting to hear a bunch of white progressives who have never set foot in the Middle East tell me I am wrong about the criticism I hear. Recently, folks at Rutgers have been criticizing Campus Hille…

As a low-middle class white person who struggles to be heard, I find the term 'whitesplain' to be offensive. For the same reason that I find the term 'mansplaining' offensive when applied to some shy guy trying to express their opinion for the first time.

A more appropriate term would be 'richsplaining'; when a rich person tries to explain to a poor person how the world is. It's not about race, it's about wealth. It's still not 100% correlation, but it's closer.

Race is not the root.

Re: Anti-Semitic social posts 'not taken down' in 80% of cases

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Post by morpheos137 »

I think if you take down these sorts of posts you may create a Streisand effect where it actually makes the problem worse.

In general though I don't think social media platforms should be taking down content that does not violate the law or that the law should be expanded to cover "hate speech." In the USA at least free speech has worked pretty well so far.

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