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Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Amazing. Google finally starts to make big advances in the coveted social arena only to shoot themselves in the foot.

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That last part is wrong:

"It’s my real name, a picture of me – my posts and my nickname. I made sure it wasn’t “Adafruit Industries” and specifically me when google asked people to only use real names in their profiles. No explanation or reason why, just nuked."

http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2011/07/23/google-suspended-lim...

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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That last part is wrong: "It’s my real name, a picture of me – my posts and my nickname. I made sure it wasn’t “Adafruit Industries” and specifically me when google asked people to only use real names in their profiles. No explanation or reason why, just nuked." http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2011/07/23/google-suspended-lim...

See Matt Cutt's comment: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2797943

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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That last part is wrong: "It’s my real name, a picture of me – my posts and my nickname. I made sure it wasn’t “Adafruit Industries” and specifically me when google asked people to only use real names in their profiles. No explanation or reason why, just nuked." http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2011/07/23/google-suspended-lim...

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Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Every time I see these posts with alarmists giving bullet-lists of things they are "going to do", it sounds a lot to me like they are trying to threaten Google. Just so you're not surprised and disappointed later, I'll let you in on a secret- they don't care . Even besides the part where they are Google, I have witnessed a long history of complaints to different companies, and the more false bravado and chest- and/or…

You sir, aren't thinking things through. If you want to risk losing critically important emails because google decided it didn't like your google+ picture, you be my guest. I for one am deleting my g+ account until they fix all this garbage. If they don't, then I won't use it, simple as that. I'm using it for fun, I don't really need it (everyone's on facebook). BTW, let me know if you ever run any companies, I want…

Just so you know, when you say "tell me if you ever start a company, so I can know to short it", you're inadvertently paying someone a gigantic compliment. It takes some of the fire out of flamey comment when its premise is that your adversary is going to take a company public.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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I don't find Google+ any significant improvement over Twitter or Facebook. That is, in the larger sense it's a mildly amusing diversion and not at all something I'd miss if it disappeared. Losing access to my GMail account, on the other hand, would be painful. The thing that's worrisome about this is that you really have no recourse if Google's automated systems mess up. For example, I've completely lost access to a…

It's a good idea to own the domain that you run your email on. Whether you run your own server, use Google's services, or whatever other service you want doesn't matter anymore -- if something goes wrong, you can transition the implementation without losing your identity.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

I don't think this is recent at all: this has been going forever. It just happened most recently to someone with a love of spamming the Internet (which is why his gmail was disabled, apparently), and we all heard about this. Combined with ladyada and Skud, it seems like this is happening a lot. But it's three cases out of millions of users.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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When I played American Army a while back I was placed in jail for a cool down period when I hit one of my own team mates. Seems like Google ought to do the same thing, sweep the accounts looking for red flags and place into limbo. Write a program (I think Google knows how to do this) to globally communicate the best bet for correcting the red flags and reinstating when acceptable. It's good customer service, and could be a good startup idea. You solve the issue and in turn get loyal customers. Now all I need is two good programmers.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Google's lack of real customer service is why I decided to move all of my google app domains over to fastmail.fm -- I'd much rather pay for a service and have a person I can talk to when there is a problem. I guess I'm lucky that I decided to setup my G+ profile with my real name instead of using the actual gmail name I picked.

Google has great customer service.

Your misunderstanding lays with the fact you are assuming you are the customer, when in fact you (as the user) are the product (your data) being sold (via ad sense automation).

So put simply "if they are not receiving money off you are not the customer".

Your relationship is a raw resource exchange of your data with the payment of free services from them. In a sense they are farming you.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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I managed my own email sever for a long time but eventually grew tired of fighting spam. Unfortunately spam is so rampant now that you're going to have to devote a lot of personal attention to do 1/10th as good a job as GMail to fight it.

apt-get install postgrey That's really all I do...

Admittedly it's been a few years since I did this. Maybe it's gotten easier.

What about other mail servers rejecting mail originating from your server? I had a lot of trouble with that too.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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As a change of pace from the usual pattern of comments on a 'someone got their account suspended' post I would like to offer a practical solution: Why not provide an optional pseudonym filed? that way you have the real name to enable searching for people within the service and users can use their desired display name.

In fact, there is a nickname field in the Google Profile page. However, it seems that this field, even if public, is not displayed anywhere or used when searching for people.
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