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Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by chc »

rryan wrote: post #9
[deleted] wrote: post #5

[deleted]

> ... by the bot ... Just wanted to mention this post: https://plus.google.com/106912596786226524817/posts/A3mStMmX... "we do not take automatic action based on the number of abuse reports submitted for a profile" Also, a real-name suspension only locks you out of Google+, nothing else. A Google TOS violation, however, can cause you to be locked out of your entire Google account.

That just means that you can't spam abuse reports to get somebody autobanned. It doesn't mean you can't get banned by a bot for other reasons.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by mdwrigh2 »

Aqwis wrote: post #6

> It is not a simple matter of using a “real name” - as much of a problematic grey area as that is. Another person cited in my Google+ article has now had their account deleted for the simple reason that they were using Gmail and Google+ with multiple account sign-in: Does this mean I can actually get banned for using more than one GMail account? What the fuck?

No, it doesn't.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by icebraining »

parfe wrote: post #12

While I don't believe the google account deletion hysterics I did setup dove cot imap to trial hosting my own email. On friday I got an unshakable feeling of keeping all my eggs in one basket. squirrel mail is no gmail replacement but it's good enough so far, and I read mostly via imap

You can use Gmail with your own domain. That way, it's easy to switch if this ever happens (just a matter of updating some DNS records).

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by sliverstorm »

tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

Every time I see these posts with alarmists giving bullet-lists of things they are "going to do", it sounds a lot to me like they are trying to threaten Google.

Just so you're not surprised and disappointed later, I'll let you in on a secret- they don't care. Even besides the part where they are Google, I have witnessed a long history of complaints to different companies, and the more false bravado and chest- and/or drum-beating you display, the less they care about you.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by yanw »

As a change of pace from the usual pattern of comments on a 'someone got their account suspended' post I would like to offer a practical solution:

Why not provide an optional pseudonym filed? that way you have the real name to enable searching for people within the service and users can use their desired display name.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by markkanof »

sliverstorm wrote: post #24
tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

Every time I see these posts with alarmists giving bullet-lists of things they are "going to do", it sounds a lot to me like they are trying to threaten Google. Just so you're not surprised and disappointed later, I'll let you in on a secret- they don't care . Even besides the part where they are Google, I have witnessed a long history of complaints to different companies, and the more false bravado and chest- and/or…

I get your point, but I don't think that is what he is doing. Sending an angry email to Google listing all these points would be an example of chest thumping, and your right, Google doesn't care. I interpreted his comments more as "I need to look out for my own best interests."

If someone has the technical know how and monetary resources to have more control over their email and phone service, then why not do it. For some people it's great to just use what Google provides. It's relatively simple and is free, but you are at the mercy of whatever new policies they might put in place. Also, it is purportedly very difficult to get any kind of customer service from Google, so if your account is deleted, you might be out of luck. Google doesn't care, but for an individual it could be a huge deal to all of the sudden be cut off from multiple means of communication. If this guy doesn't want to take that risk, what's the problem with that?

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by jdunlop »

sliverstorm wrote: post #24
tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

Every time I see these posts with alarmists giving bullet-lists of things they are "going to do", it sounds a lot to me like they are trying to threaten Google. Just so you're not surprised and disappointed later, I'll let you in on a secret- they don't care . Even besides the part where they are Google, I have witnessed a long history of complaints to different companies, and the more false bravado and chest- and/or…

You sir, aren't thinking things through. If you want to risk losing critically important emails because google decided it didn't like your google+ picture, you be my guest.

I for one am deleting my g+ account until they fix all this garbage. If they don't, then I won't use it, simple as that. I'm using it for fun, I don't really need it (everyone's on facebook).

BTW, let me know if you ever run any companies, I want to know who to short and what software not to use.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by Matt_Cutts »

jdp23 wrote: post #13
rryan wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ... by the bot ... Just wanted to mention this post: https://plus.google.com/106912596786226524817/posts/A3mStMmX... "we do not take automatic action based on the number of abuse reports submitted for a profile" Also, a real-name suspension only locks you out of Google+, nothing else. A Google TOS violation, however, can cause you to be locked out of your entire Google account.

If the Google spokesman's claim is correct and there really is manual review, it's remarkably shoddy. One of the accounts that's been deleted was recently on the cover of Wired. Another had assembled a page documenting all the people who called her by the pseudonym and posted it on her G+ profile. What kind of training are they giving these reviewers?

"One of the accounts that's been deleted was recently on the cover of Wired."

Regarding the cover of Wired case: if you do the query [site:plus.google.com ladyada] on bing.com, you'll see an older version of the profile, where the name was "Adafruit Industries." Google has said that Google+ isn't ready for businesses yet, and asks people to use real names. If a profile gives a name like Doctor Popular, I can believe that would be flagged.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

parfe wrote: post #12

While I don't believe the google account deletion hysterics I did setup dove cot imap to trial hosting my own email. On friday I got an unshakable feeling of keeping all my eggs in one basket. squirrel mail is no gmail replacement but it's good enough so far, and I read mostly via imap

Squirrel mail is neither the easiest to setup, nor the most feature rich. Just saying, it doesn't have to be all or nothing.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by sliverstorm »

jdunlop wrote: post #27
sliverstorm wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time I see these posts with alarmists giving bullet-lists of things they are "going to do", it sounds a lot to me like they are trying to threaten Google. Just so you're not surprised and disappointed later, I'll let you in on a secret- they don't care . Even besides the part where they are Google, I have witnessed a long history of complaints to different companies, and the more false bravado and chest- and/or…

You sir, aren't thinking things through. If you want to risk losing critically important emails because google decided it didn't like your google+ picture, you be my guest. I for one am deleting my g+ account until they fix all this garbage. If they don't, then I won't use it, simple as that. I'm using it for fun, I don't really need it (everyone's on facebook). BTW, let me know if you ever run any companies, I want…

And you sir, are shockingly bitter. That's an uncalled for level of hate.
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