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Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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markkanof wrote: post #26
sliverstorm wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time I see these posts with alarmists giving bullet-lists of things they are "going to do", it sounds a lot to me like they are trying to threaten Google. Just so you're not surprised and disappointed later, I'll let you in on a secret- they don't care . Even besides the part where they are Google, I have witnessed a long history of complaints to different companies, and the more false bravado and chest- and/or…

I get your point, but I don't think that is what he is doing. Sending an angry email to Google listing all these points would be an example of chest thumping, and your right, Google doesn't care. I interpreted his comments more as "I need to look out for my own best interests." If someone has the technical know how and monetary resources to have more control over their email and phone service, then why not do it. For…

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Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by resdirector »

TillE wrote: post #37
sliverstorm wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you sir, are shockingly bitter. That's an uncalled for level of hate.

Really, you're shocked at a hostile reaction when you accuse someone of "false bravado and chest- and/or drum-beating" in a post dripping with condescension? If you're going to dish it out...

I don't think silverstorms aim was to offend, rather he was trying to explain an interesting phenomenon and perhaps accidentally offended. jdunlop's statement, on the other hand seemed designed to offend.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by rorrr »

tectonic wrote: post #18
tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

Is there a good alternative to Google Voice? I want an online voicemail service and call forwarding for when I travel.

voxox.com - free

youmail.com - free?

phonebooth.com - $20/month

ringcentral.com - $20/month

line2.com - $10-15/month

3jam.com - $5/month

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by ugh »

sliverstorm wrote: post #24
tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

Every time I see these posts with alarmists giving bullet-lists of things they are "going to do", it sounds a lot to me like they are trying to threaten Google. Just so you're not surprised and disappointed later, I'll let you in on a secret- they don't care . Even besides the part where they are Google, I have witnessed a long history of complaints to different companies, and the more false bravado and chest- and/or…

That doesn’t seem to be true. Even Apple, for example, will often change their behavior, especially after much vitriol is directed at them. I don’t know whether it’s the vitriol or the nice constructive feedback (there is certainly always going to be some of that mixed in) that causes them to change but I see no indication whatsoever that vitriolic and loud criticism would make them shy away from changing things.

I think it would be an exceedingly bad policy for companies to ignore that kind of feedback. It’s valuable and it should inform decisions. That doesn’t mean that every vitriolic comment deserves a response, but flat out ignoring it – on principle and not because what is said is a wrong argument[1] – would be stupid.

On an emotional level I can understand not wanting to react to that kind of criticism. I probably wouldn’t want to if it were directed at me as an individual. But as a company? I think I would have to[2].

[1] And if there is no argument and only insults the company should do their best to find out what the underlying reasons are.

[2] I’m obviously talking about feedback on an aggregate level. The company should try and identify common patterns in the feedback they receive.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by electromagnetic »

TillE wrote: post #37
sliverstorm wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you sir, are shockingly bitter. That's an uncalled for level of hate.

Really, you're shocked at a hostile reaction when you accuse someone of "false bravado and chest- and/or drum-beating" in a post dripping with condescension? If you're going to dish it out...

Grow up or GTFO, HN is a place for adults. If someone is impolite, your response shouldn't be a trollish immature response.

If your life is so grossly devastated by a google action then you're an idiot. All my data on google is backed up multiple times, because I'm a responsible adult and want to ensure the safety of my data. I don't trust google simply because it's google. They're a mega corp that's going to ditch you, screw you and abuse you for a penny if they can.

As I said, it's time for people to grow up or get out.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by bhousel »

cageface wrote: post #19
parfe wrote: post #12

While I don't believe the google account deletion hysterics I did setup dove cot imap to trial hosting my own email. On friday I got an unshakable feeling of keeping all my eggs in one basket. squirrel mail is no gmail replacement but it's good enough so far, and I read mostly via imap

I managed my own email sever for a long time but eventually grew tired of fighting spam. Unfortunately spam is so rampant now that you're going to have to devote a lot of personal attention to do 1/10th as good a job as GMail to fight it.

apt-get install postgrey

That's really all I do...

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by bcl »

Google's lack of real customer service is why I decided to move all of my google app domains over to fastmail.fm -- I'd much rather pay for a service and have a person I can talk to when there is a problem.

I guess I'm lucky that I decided to setup my G+ profile with my real name instead of using the actual gmail name I picked.

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