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Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by zero_billion »

AkshitGarg wrote: post #80
zero_billion wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We do enforce NSFW filtering among platforms that provide a NSFW filtered option. E.g. youtube has such an option. It's quite challenging with reddit and social media sites. we have some indirect ways of blocking some of the social media content but in most cases. Users can also completely block "risky" apps.

Along with this, you could maybe also enforce google safe search or similar for search engines? As far as I know, Google allows such a thing

yes, we do enforce google and bing safe search.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by ripughna »

yaseer wrote: post #22
crsv wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that's a "no" to the question of whether there is any empirical evidence saying that this intervention has a positive effect. Got it. No evidence.

This isn't an 'intervention'. These are individuals choosing to make a change in their habits. It's for that person to decide whether changing their habits is a positive goal to pursue.

It’s absolutely an intervention in the technical sense of the term.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by edgyquant »

lolc wrote: post #78
throwawayswede wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're sharing on your "platform". The only reason for you to do this is because it's profitable to you for some reason, hence, you're capitalizing on people's pains. Support groups help in real life, not over some app where a faceless entity's purpose of existence is to extract your money.

Eh, that's a low bar. By that metric therapists also capitalize on other people's pain.

They do but there’s nothing wrong with that. Everything in life is an economic transaction if it involves more than one person. The other poster is just being pedantic and a bit mean.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by zero_billion »

ripughna wrote: post #82
yaseer wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't an 'intervention'. These are individuals choosing to make a change in their habits. It's for that person to decide whether changing their habits is a positive goal to pursue.

It’s absolutely an intervention in the technical sense of the term.

it's an intervention only because the user is looking for an intervention to overcome some behaviors that are negatively impacting their life.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by thewebcount »

zero_billion wrote: post #63
kmnc wrote: post #56

How many people who struggle with porn are actually just using it as a replacement for dealing with more destructive addictions? This was the issue for me, as a problem gambler porn became a scapegoat that I had more control over then gambling. It became a scapegoat for other things as well like not taking care of myself. The thing is, it was only when I decided to stop having an unhealthy relationship with porn full…

thanks for sharing your experience. i guess it's different for different people. i have heard stories of young men who had erectile dysfunction. They could not get an erection with their partner but could an erection with porn. quitting porn has helped many such people overcome ED. before anyone asks, this relation of erectile dysfunction to porn is not yet proven. hopefully there will be more studies on the same in…

Do you have any science on that? A friend mentioned this to me, so I looked it up, and I could find no evidence (from reputable sources) that it's true. There does appear to be an increase in ED in younger men in recent years, and also a decrease in sperm count, but not one of the sources I found mentioned anything about porn usage being related.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by bambax »

zero_billion wrote: post #63
kmnc wrote: post #56

How many people who struggle with porn are actually just using it as a replacement for dealing with more destructive addictions? This was the issue for me, as a problem gambler porn became a scapegoat that I had more control over then gambling. It became a scapegoat for other things as well like not taking care of myself. The thing is, it was only when I decided to stop having an unhealthy relationship with porn full…

thanks for sharing your experience. i guess it's different for different people. i have heard stories of young men who had erectile dysfunction. They could not get an erection with their partner but could an erection with porn. quitting porn has helped many such people overcome ED. before anyone asks, this relation of erectile dysfunction to porn is not yet proven. hopefully there will be more studies on the same in…

> quitting porn has helped many such people overcome porn

Sure. Is this a typo though? What do you mean exactly?

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by bityard »

f6v wrote: post #15

Isn’t it like dieting? What I mean is that digital escapism is a symptom, not a problem. Before social media existed, people used to fill up their time with: 1) Having many children 2) Watching TV 3) Excessive alcohol use etc. Media addiction is a manifestation of something, not the root cause.

> Media addiction is a manifestation of something, not the root cause.

I only partly agree. I have two children. We are loving parents and provide them with a stable house, lots of food, plenty of attention. They have friends, toys, games, books, musical instruments, bikes, and a whole neighborhood to explore. We are an extremely typical middle-class household.

But left to their own devices, they will happily spend every waking hour in front a screen, watching videos or playing video games. There most certainly _is_ something incredibly mentally addicting about passive content consumption. It doesn't need a root cause, just like you don't need one with alcohol and other substance addiction.

(And because this is HN, I am obliged to point out that I'm not saying media addiction can't be triggered by some other factor. Only that a trigger is not required to cause the addiction.)

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by zero_billion »

bambax wrote: post #86
zero_billion wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

thanks for sharing your experience. i guess it's different for different people. i have heard stories of young men who had erectile dysfunction. They could not get an erection with their partner but could an erection with porn. quitting porn has helped many such people overcome ED. before anyone asks, this relation of erectile dysfunction to porn is not yet proven. hopefully there will be more studies on the same in…

> quitting porn has helped many such people overcome porn Sure. Is this a typo though? What do you mean exactly?

corrected this. i meant quitting porn has helped many such people overcome ED.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by zero_billion »

thewebcount wrote: post #85
zero_billion wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

thanks for sharing your experience. i guess it's different for different people. i have heard stories of young men who had erectile dysfunction. They could not get an erection with their partner but could an erection with porn. quitting porn has helped many such people overcome ED. before anyone asks, this relation of erectile dysfunction to porn is not yet proven. hopefully there will be more studies on the same in…

Do you have any science on that? A friend mentioned this to me, so I looked it up, and I could find no evidence (from reputable sources) that it's true. There does appear to be an increase in ED in younger men in recent years, and also a decrease in sperm count, but not one of the sources I found mentioned anything about porn usage being related.

true, i haven't found any research paper on this too. But, I have seen this being shared in our community posts.

Re: Launch HN: Atmana (YC S21) – An app to help cut down on compulsive porn usage

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Post by esrh »

Something that interests me is that you mention porn specifically in your title and write about it a lot in your body text, but the website itself seems to have a MUCH broader scope. It seems like there's a disconnect between the marketing and what your intentions are.

Are you developing this with preventing porn addicting in mind first, or are you treating all addictions equally? (IMO, social media addiction is a bigger problem, but as you probably know several good blocking programs exist)

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