Just want to remind everyone how far California has gone in energy efficiency: > In 2018, California's energy consumption was second-highest among the states, but its per capita energy consumption was the fourth-lowest due in part to its mild climate and its energy efficiency programs. Source: https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=CA#tabs-4 This is an achievement to be proud of.
PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption
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Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption
#132Good. It's time Silicon Valley cared about TDP the way auto makers have to care about gas mileage. Tighten the screws.
Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption
#133All that the rules say (yes, I read them) is that a workstation with 32G RAM (formula is 10 + 0.03 * RAM_GiB) must not exceed ~ 11W in sleep mode and a desktop with 32G RAM must not exceed 6W in sleep mode (5 + 0.03 * RAM_GiB). Basically, these desktops probably have very ancient/buggy motherboards with broken ACPI. Good riddance. Fun fact: Desktops/workstations shipped without an operating system at purchasers reque…
Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the difficult task of enacting even more wealth transfers is the only solution there What? Haven’t you heard of tax brackets? If you are so keen to tax electricity more than it already is , and are concerned it would affect the poor, then use tax bracketing just like income tax does. The poor pay less by being in a lower bracket. Having said that, higher taxes on electricity may affect businesses in a way you don’t…
Marginal sales tax rates would be ideal, but outside of a central database of all transactions, I do not see how it is feasible.
Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
You think California spent months with 1/2 the population without power at a time?
Not continuously, just intermittently for a few months of the year.
Turns out, a LOT of people live in CA.
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
These aren't that powerful from a computing standpoint; They use low-end i5 11400F along with a low-end nVidia 1650 Super and have 8GB single-channel memory. Also, I think it's more about inefficiency when sleeping and idle.
Yeah, but for me its more about it being illegal than actually being a good laptop.
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requires: + 87% + PSU efficiency + Incorporate Energy-Efficient Ethernet functionality +. Transition connected displays into sleep mode within 15 minutes of user inactivity + Transition the computer into either the computer sleep mode or computer off mode within 30 minutes of user inactivity. If the transition is to a computer sleep mode, that sleep mode shall either as described in ACPI as S3 or Consume power less t…
> Consume power less than or equal to 10 + 0.03 * C, where C is the system memory capacity in gigabytes minus 32 gigabytes (see Table V-6 in Title 20 Section 1605.3(v)) Umm what? Who came up with this? Is there any scientific basis behind this?
Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption
#138All that the rules say (yes, I read them) is that a workstation with 32G RAM (formula is 10 + 0.03 * RAM_GiB) must not exceed ~ 11W in sleep mode and a desktop with 32G RAM must not exceed 6W in sleep mode (5 + 0.03 * RAM_GiB). Basically, these desktops probably have very ancient/buggy motherboards with broken ACPI. Good riddance. Fun fact: Desktops/workstations shipped without an operating system at purchasers reque…
What distinguishes a workstation from a desktop?
Workstations are also often sold with ECC RAM.
Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption
#139I've never wanted an Alienware laptop in my life, but as a resident of Oregon there is absolutely nothing more that I want right now than an illegally powerful laptop.
Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
You think California spent months with 1/2 the population without power at a time?
Not continuously, just intermittently for a few months of the year.
Even then, it was at most a few weeks total. Annoying as hell, but probably not enough to really move the needle. Wish we could have had autonomous solar (but while renting, that wasn’t an option). Best I could do was a portable panel to recharge phones/power banks for the evening.