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Yikes that’s too mucho for a home setup…

The segments are much smaller at 100GB each. Please see this thread for some information.

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It’s not the same. I don’t have an option of who to build my echo chamber with. On Twitter and Facebook you get to remove anyone that challenges your thought process. That’s what makes it so dangerous and euphoric. Everyone you see is clapping for your stupid ideas and people just live in different realities now because of it. On HN we all get the same front page, same comments, etc. You might not like what gets the…

> It’s not the same. I don’t have an option of who to build my echo chamber with. Maybe not immediately, but Hacker News is absolutely an echo chamber. People who don't toe the line on certain popular opinions (e.g. social media bad) quickly learn not to comment because they know they'll get massively downvoted. Hacker News upvotes and downvotes are supposed to be about whether or not the comment is a quality post th…

> Maybe not immediately, but Hacker News is absolutely an echo chamber. People who don't toe the line on certain popular opinions (e.g. social media bad) quickly learn not to comment because they know they'll get massively downvoted.

That’s not special to social media. There have been unpopular opinions among communities since before the internet. This all part of being in a large community based on interests. Learning how to deal with that is critical to learn how to function in society.

The other components of your reply complaining about the community having emergent plurality opinions completely misses the point. HN is better because these biases and things you disagree with are right in your face.

> I actually had to change screen names on HN once already because I pointed out some flaws in a certain author's books, and one of that author's fans tracked me down and tried to argue with me on my personal e-mail address. Nothing like that has ever happened to me on any other social media site.

People get stalked and harassed due to their Twitter posts all of the time by using their real name. Swatting is a thing. An argument over email is tepid in comparison to the real violence that happens from people using real identities on public social media every day.

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Is that true? As in, I can ban a hash and nobody can then access it? I've never heard of that.

It's an oversimplification If you run a node, you could block hashes of content you don't want hosting. Other nodes can still host it though.

You can do more than that. You can position yourself in the DHT in a place that even though you don't host the specific data, all users must go through you to find out who hosts it. You then falsely tell all requesters that the data doesn't exist.

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Totally agree that HN checks a lot of the same boxes, but there are some significant differences. 1. Advertising. (Or lack thereof) 2. Moderation. Downvotes here literally slowly erase content that the community doesn’t like; I think this compliments the swift hand of dang in a great way. 3. Participation. This is just a WAG, but i think more HN users post comments or submit stories than Twitter users tweet. There is…

> Downvotes here literally slowly erase content that the community doesn’t like; Most of the time downvotes are used to erase abusive content, but it's shocking how quickly some of the well-formed opinions in the content sections go gray if they don't agree with the popular opinion on HN. At this point, I almost don't bother replying to HN comments if I know they'll just be met with waves of lazy downvotes. The invis…

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> Except for the ones who are banned for violating the “Twitter Rules.” This reminds me of criticisms of "metoo". Yes, i'm sure someone somewhere got a raw deal. But as far as I can see the people banished deserve it, and the overall ecosystem is better for it.

So you think SciHub deserves it? And that we’re better off without their voice? Obviously, you’re free to think what you like but this seems like a sad and limited worldview. Assuming that everything removed from my perception deserves to be removed.

I don't know. For what it's worth, the account is back and the entire basis for this conversation (a perm suspension) is null and void.

The system largely works, from what I can see. Getting thrown off Twitter for 24h isn't that bad of a mistake even, given the scale of the challenge they face to enforce their TOS to billions of accounts.

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Except for the ones who are banned for violating the “Twitter Rules.” So it’s good if you like a feed of things tied to your direct interests, that Twitter allows. I’m interested in Sci-Hub. I don’t want to use Twitter for part of my interested and the ??? for other things.

Can't be banned from HN right?

You can.

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It's an oversimplification If you run a node, you could block hashes of content you don't want hosting. Other nodes can still host it though.

You can do more than that. You can position yourself in the DHT in a place that even though you don't host the specific data, all users must go through you to find out who hosts it. You then falsely tell all requesters that the data doesn't exist.

Do you have any more details on this problem?

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Other humans acknowledging your existence and even agreeing with your various opinions is a very very euphoric experience, it is true of any social media. Suddenly you have hundreds or even thousands of people that "get" you, that understand how great and clever you are. This is the drug that people can't quit. People won't quit because they'd be unable to tell people that they've quit. Another take could be that we…

> Other humans acknowledging your existence and even agreeing with your various opinions is a very very euphoric experience, it is true of any social media. Suddenly you have hundreds or even thousands of people that "get" you, that understand how great and clever you are. This is the drug that people can't quit. It’s always funny to see people discussing “social media” as some insidious drug that other people use to…

When writing my reply I actually thought about mentioning how ironic it was that every upvote on my comment would have exactly the effect I describe. I completely include myself in the "human" group.
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