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Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by 6510 »

nradov wrote: post #42
machinehermiter wrote: post #20

As someone who hasn't used social media in 5+ years, what do these social networks need to do to make you quit using them? There has to be some threshold but I just don't understand how this threshold hasn't been crossed for more people. I don't want to see Twitter legislated or controlled. The counter balance and equilibrium should be doing crazy things causes a massive loss of users so crazy things do not happen. T…

Some people want social media to be a force for political change and social justice. I think this is a mistake and goes beyond what those platforms are suitable for. Personally I just want to share my photography with friends. Social media works great for that. I'll probably never quit.

It works great if you only care about the short term moment of sharing. The technology is all there to make something superior to the family photo album but marking everything for eventual deletion makes it an inferior medium. Everything is designed to get rid of your words and images as soon as the content stops serving a party with motivations not aligned with the user. People tend to think their unique experiences and unique perspective is not worth anything but the sum of those billions might be the most important thing we've ever owned.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by mandmandam »

Channel16 wrote: post #54
einpoklum wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Phone company cut my line today. They said I am too critical of their parent company in my conversations. But - what can I do? Their phone platform, their rules. Right?

Stick with the truth over lies. Your line wasn't cut.

Thanks for the helpful reminder to honesty, brand new account in classic world/number format.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by hackermailman »

mrighele wrote: post #55
machinehermiter wrote: post #20

As someone who hasn't used social media in 5+ years, what do these social networks need to do to make you quit using them? There has to be some threshold but I just don't understand how this threshold hasn't been crossed for more people. I don't want to see Twitter legislated or controlled. The counter balance and equilibrium should be doing crazy things causes a massive loss of users so crazy things do not happen. T…

In sone countries twitter et al are the best way to get information that is not directly controlled by the government. They are imperfect (accounts banned, state funded troll farms etc) but still better than the alternatives

Like finding out the new official domain, since it is constantly changing, most countries don't directly block facebook/twitter so you can use it for official communications, many scam domains masquerading as sci-hub trying to get you to install malware browser plugins. There's also a Telegram bot https://telegram.me/scihubot assuming your country hasn't blocked Telegram (China).

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by lamontcg »

einpoklum wrote: post #50
b9be520d93286 wrote: post #38

Their platform their rules. Scihub can create their own twitter. Edit /s for those missing the point

Phone company cut my line today. They said I am too critical of their parent company in my conversations. But - what can I do? Their phone platform, their rules. Right?

be your own phone company

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by agumonkey »

Beldin wrote: post #9
submeta wrote: post #7

I am no scientist, and I have no access to paywalled platforms and publications. So Sci-Hub is my only available option, and it is increadibly valuable when it comes to doing research on a specific topic. - I can remember the old days of the internet, pre-wikipedia, when encyclopedias were a paid thing. And I did not have the means to subscribe to them. And I remember the days of the internet pre sci-hub, where a lay…

Not to take away from Sci-Hub, but even without institutional access, there are often alternatives: - more and more research institutes have a public repository of articles. - plenty of authors put their own (preprints of) papers on their personal website, a preprint server like arxiv, or researchgate. - lastly, you can mail an author and request a preprint. Not all will reply, but plenty will be happy that someone n…

Maybe scihub was a protoevent quickly dying but spreading the way to do on other official places.

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Post by xvilka »

betwixthewires wrote: post #56
Anunayj wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SciHub relies on credentials donated (or sold) by people with access to journals to obtain the papers. (If you are in a university, your university likely provides access to many journals and pays for it on your behalf). So yeah, even if they did open source the code, you'll still need to obtain the credentials somehow. Which isn't very pratical.

Well, that's not necessarily true for current existing documents that are already available. I believe they're pinned on IPFS nodes, and so are available through IPFS. So if you did clone their front end and index you should be able to continue operating the system, at least with current availability. What would be nice would be a distributed table that functions as an index specifically for these documents, that way…

Unless company behind IPFS bans it. They are a US company after all.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by cmckn »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #47
belval wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other humans acknowledging your existence and even agreeing with your various opinions is a very very euphoric experience, it is true of any social media. Suddenly you have hundreds or even thousands of people that "get" you, that understand how great and clever you are. This is the drug that people can't quit. People won't quit because they'd be unable to tell people that they've quit. Another take could be that we…

> Other humans acknowledging your existence and even agreeing with your various opinions is a very very euphoric experience, it is true of any social media. Suddenly you have hundreds or even thousands of people that "get" you, that understand how great and clever you are. This is the drug that people can't quit. It’s always funny to see people discussing “social media” as some insidious drug that other people use to…

Totally agree that HN checks a lot of the same boxes, but there are some significant differences.

1. Advertising. (Or lack thereof)

2. Moderation. Downvotes here literally slowly erase content that the community doesn’t like; I think this compliments the swift hand of dang in a great way.

3. Participation. This is just a WAG, but i think more HN users post comments or submit stories than Twitter users tweet. There is a very low percentage of users posting the vast majority of tweets. I like HN because I can actually interact, not just follow.

We really had realized most of the promise of online socializing with forums 20 years ago, IMO. Twitter is exhausting.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by civilized »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #47
belval wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other humans acknowledging your existence and even agreeing with your various opinions is a very very euphoric experience, it is true of any social media. Suddenly you have hundreds or even thousands of people that "get" you, that understand how great and clever you are. This is the drug that people can't quit. People won't quit because they'd be unable to tell people that they've quit. Another take could be that we…

> Other humans acknowledging your existence and even agreeing with your various opinions is a very very euphoric experience, it is true of any social media. Suddenly you have hundreds or even thousands of people that "get" you, that understand how great and clever you are. This is the drug that people can't quit. It’s always funny to see people discussing “social media” as some insidious drug that other people use to…

I think there is a meaningful difference between social media that centers the person posting vs. centering the content. Twitter centers the person, HN centers the content. One is not uniformly better than the other, but the UI/UX differences promote very different cultures. Imagine the discontent if HN people were forced into a Twitter or Reddit style UI that spends lots of screen real estate on the person posting.
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