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Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by greggman3 »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #47
belval wrote: post #28

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Other humans acknowledging your existence and even agreeing with your various opinions is a very very euphoric experience, it is true of any social media. Suddenly you have hundreds or even thousands of people that "get" you, that understand how great and clever you are. This is the drug that people can't quit. People won't quit because they'd be unable to tell people that they've quit. Another take could be that we…

> Other humans acknowledging your existence and even agreeing with your various opinions is a very very euphoric experience, it is true of any social media. Suddenly you have hundreds or even thousands of people that "get" you, that understand how great and clever you are. This is the drug that people can't quit. It’s always funny to see people discussing “social media” as some insidious drug that other people use to…

I'm interpreting your comment as HN is like Twitter, HN is good therefore Twitter is good but I have the opposite opinion. HN is like Twitter, Twitter is bad, HN is bad

HN for me, HN's social media feature (the POINTS) are as bad as twitter and i've banned myself from it twice because of how addicting it is for me. (blocking it in my browser, setting my noprocrast to billions, even blocking it in my DNS server).

Seeing those points go up, a stupid as it is, is that "euphoria" mentioned above. If I notice that little number jump then I immediately want to know "wow, what comment of mine did people like" and similarly if it goes down I immediately get defensive and want to go respond to whichever comment was downvoted.

This time I wrote a chrome extension to remove the points which for me as a force multiplier in it's addictiveness.

https://github.com/greggman/hn-points-exorcism

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by 6510 »

betwixthewires wrote: post #60
andyxor wrote: post #5

join sci-hub rescue mission https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/nc27fv/rescue_... there is a new p2p client being developed (in Go) that makes sci-hub papers accessible via DOI https://www.reddit.com/r/libgen/comments/ompcvk/need_help_fr... it could use some help with indexing & IPFS integration (or just code review), see e.g. https://github.com/Trim21/sci-hub-p2p/pull/23

I would seriously consider focusing on IPFS integration and indexing using a distributed table. Most of these documents are already pinned on IPFS, focusing on bittorrent requires users to change how the files are shared, and we have all seen the rot that happens with bittorrent and trackers, try to find something from 30 years ago using bittorrent, or even 10 years ago in many cases. If you want to make these docume…

> try to find something from 30 years ago using bittorrent

The clients are bad nowadays. Old utorrent could easily seed many thousands of torrents. With utorrent web I don't even know how to get the torrent files or magnets out. I hear some ppl with seedboxes run multiple clients and restart each periodically. Thats not how things are suppose to work.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by macintux »

cmckn wrote: post #69
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Other humans acknowledging your existence and even agreeing with your various opinions is a very very euphoric experience, it is true of any social media. Suddenly you have hundreds or even thousands of people that "get" you, that understand how great and clever you are. This is the drug that people can't quit. It’s always funny to see people discussing “social media” as some insidious drug that other people use to…

Totally agree that HN checks a lot of the same boxes, but there are some significant differences. 1. Advertising. (Or lack thereof) 2. Moderation. Downvotes here literally slowly erase content that the community doesn’t like; I think this compliments the swift hand of dang in a great way. 3. Participation. This is just a WAG, but i think more HN users post comments or submit stories than Twitter users tweet. There is…

HN also lacks an algorithm tuned to encourage “engagement” through divisiveness.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by [deleted] »

machinehermiter wrote: post #20

As someone who hasn't used social media in 5+ years, what do these social networks need to do to make you quit using them? There has to be some threshold but I just don't understand how this threshold hasn't been crossed for more people. I don't want to see Twitter legislated or controlled. The counter balance and equilibrium should be doing crazy things causes a massive loss of users so crazy things do not happen. T…

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Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by ryanianian »

civilized wrote: post #70
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #47

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> Other humans acknowledging your existence and even agreeing with your various opinions is a very very euphoric experience, it is true of any social media. Suddenly you have hundreds or even thousands of people that "get" you, that understand how great and clever you are. This is the drug that people can't quit. It’s always funny to see people discussing “social media” as some insidious drug that other people use to…

I think there is a meaningful difference between social media that centers the person posting vs. centering the content. Twitter centers the person, HN centers the content. One is not uniformly better than the other, but the UI/UX differences promote very different cultures. Imagine the discontent if HN people were forced into a Twitter or Reddit style UI that spends lots of screen real estate on the person posting.

> Twitter or Reddit style UI that spends lots of screen real estate on the person posting.

Not sure I follow this. Reddit focuses on the content just as much as HN. The nature of the network (and quality of content in general) is quite different from HN of course.

There's a lot to not like about Reddit, but it's the only social media apart from HN that I still enjoy using after quitting FB/Twitter/Insta/Snap.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by sterlind »

varelse wrote: post #39
submeta wrote: post #7

I am no scientist, and I have no access to paywalled platforms and publications. So Sci-Hub is my only available option, and it is increadibly valuable when it comes to doing research on a specific topic. - I can remember the old days of the internet, pre-wikipedia, when encyclopedias were a paid thing. And I did not have the means to subscribe to them. And I remember the days of the internet pre sci-hub, where a lay…

My cheat code for research publications is to go to a University library on weekends, one of the universities that will actually let you in if you're not a student or staff, and download all the publications I want or need onto a USB stick. But none of the stuff should be behind paywalls in the first place if it was funded by the government of any nation. Good luck fixing that.

if I had fewer scruples I'd infect one of the library computers and use it as a VPN from home. or maybe tuck an rPi behind a bookshelf and have it connect/bounce through WiFi. the easiest legal way would probably be for me to enroll somewhere and take some classes I'm already interested in.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by betwixthewires »

londons_explore wrote: post #84
xvilka wrote: post #68

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Unless company behind IPFS bans it. They are a US company after all.

The fact IPFS effectively allows anyone to 'ban' a content hash makes it effectively useless.

Is that true? As in, I can ban a hash and nobody can then access it? I've never heard of that.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by [deleted] »

mixedCase wrote: post #53
cblconfederate wrote: post #44

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We need an alternative. Simple personal Rss will do. Users will go wherever the techies tell them to go

That's never been the case. Users at large want convenience above all . If Twitter were to hire a private army and take over a small remote island exterminating its indigenous populace in the process, I would bet good money they would lose fewer users than if they were to force mandatory 2FA and >16 character passwords.

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