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Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Facebook has so far tried, and failed, to do this. Twice. First was Facebook Spaces. Opened 2017, closed 2019. This was a VR world. Not a very good one. It was mostly a 3D approach to a desktop.[1] You could hand other people flat pictures. Sharing! Total flop. Second was Facebook Horizon. Opened 2020, still running, but not getting much attention. It's a 3D cartoon level VR world. Works OK, not very interesting or p…

The fact they failed twice, as you point out, is only more reason to believe they will succeed. There isn't much that success first contact with reality.

A trillion dollar company with the temerity to endure will eventually succeed.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Facebook has so far tried, and failed, to do this. Twice. First was Facebook Spaces. Opened 2017, closed 2019. This was a VR world. Not a very good one. It was mostly a 3D approach to a desktop.[1] You could hand other people flat pictures. Sharing! Total flop. Second was Facebook Horizon. Opened 2020, still running, but not getting much attention. It's a 3D cartoon level VR world. Works OK, not very interesting or p…

The fact they failed twice, as you point out, is only more reason to believe they will succeed. There isn't much that success first contact with reality. A trillion dollar company with the temerity to endure will eventually succeed.

Yes, it demonstrates they're confident this is a direction things are taking and that they are in a good position to achieve it. I don't use Facebook so it all makes me a bit uncomfortable, but I think they'll get there. Solid VR option, massive userbase, stable of smart employees, warchest, etc.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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So much hate on the comments, sure their business model may be questionable but this guy has half the world's population using his social products. They are well positioned to pull something off in this space, however their walled garden model is going to limit their aspirations unless they change it.

I also feel like there is some confusion between the "metaverse" concept and spatial computing in general. In the article he describes working and collaborating in the metaverse, but you have other companies also claiming they are building a metaverse around gaming (Fortnite, Roblox). I think just like we have a clear separation between work and entertainment applications, there should be a clear distinction here too.

I could imagine there being a spatial computing layer (like the web) that facilitates both, but I think calling it the "metaverse" is confusing given the mixed usage of the concept. I'm not sure Facebook is the company that would build something as an open protocol layer, given their track record with building walled gardens.

I do agree with him that these possibilities are entirely dependent on better smaller hardware, that isn't a cumbersome headset. Entertainment seems like a no-brainer, given some success in the VR space with early hardware. The experience would have to be more efficient and productive than desktop and mobile computing to be adopted in the workplace.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Behold, the Facebook Metaverse: https://youtu.be/YlGklt4BSQ8 “WE WILL EFFECTIVELY TRANSITION FROM PEOPLE SEEING US AS PRIMARILY BEING A SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANY TO BEING A METAVERSE COMPANY” But, Facebook already transitioned to being an advertising company. The social media aspect became a funnel to direct members towards advertising, changes to Facebook are not about the social aspect, they're about eyeballs on ads and…

Futurama was great and seemed to comment on this several times https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGgTy5YJ-g

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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You have to give one thing to the guy, he keeps pushing, he could retire 1000times over. What is driving him? Anyone knows him from younger years? Most similar people(on a smaller scale) i know are money driven even though they have enough. But at this level? Makes you wonder what his final goal is?

Emperor of the universe

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By this logic, FAANG is best positioned to every tech innovation because they have the resources and know-how to pursue it. I think it's a dangerous line of thinking as the power these company wields absolutely corrupts their governance. Sure they give us cool toys, and they have the marketing budget to make sure know it, but real talk: we need restrictions on their ability to dominate every area instead of cheerlead…

> FAANG is best positioned to every tech innovation because they have the resources and know-how to pursue it. This isn't what I've seen. FAANG, and all large corporations, have many layers of bureaucracy that are required for approval of projects. "New" and "innovative" are "different" and "not well understood" by definition. As the bureaucracy get crusty, and more risk adverse, the ability to get these "unknowns" a…

This, it is much cheaper to sit on hands and wait for the 1/20 startups to succeed and then just buy them.

Unfortunately this will work indefinitely until governments realize that it is not good for the health of the economy.

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post #242

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The quest is a console. If you want to use mods without too many issues, you need to use a PC for VR.

Yep, my friend has the Index which I really like. Leaning that direction for my next VR system.

You can still use your Quest with a PC. You don’t need an Index for that.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> FAANG is best positioned to every tech innovation because they have the resources and know-how to pursue it. This isn't what I've seen. FAANG, and all large corporations, have many layers of bureaucracy that are required for approval of projects. "New" and "innovative" are "different" and "not well understood" by definition. As the bureaucracy get crusty, and more risk adverse, the ability to get these "unknowns" a…

This, it is much cheaper to sit on hands and wait for the 1/20 startups to succeed and then just buy them. Unfortunately this will work indefinitely until governments realize that it is not good for the health of the economy.

Governments do the same thing. They can't do much by themselves, so they issue RFPs, vendors bid then do for them. Many of these vendors don't make it (1/20? no idea). Is that also bad for the economy?
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