We demand censorship.
We refuse to pay for it.
We cry when it's done on the cheap.
And it's all their fault!
A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
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Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#292Well. The speech police started changing "blacklist" and "whitelist" in programming context, even when those had no racist history; maybe it's time to change it in chess. (After all, white always goes first, that is not very PC.) Rename "black" and "white" to "second player" and "first player".
First and second implies a hierarchy and uneven power balance. Both players should have their turns simultaneously.
They are uneven, having the first move is a documented advantage called "initiative". Your first move as black depends on the first move that white made, typically you won't have the same response for 1. d4 and 1. e4!
Anyway, I've been looking forward to this day, where SJW start trying to change chess because it's "racist" because white have advantage of initiative and "sexist" because it makes you sacrify the queen to save the king. Looking forward to see that level of stupidity being reached!!
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#293Well. The speech police started changing "blacklist" and "whitelist" in programming context, even when those had no racist history; maybe it's time to change it in chess. (After all, white always goes first, that is not very PC.) Rename "black" and "white" to "second player" and "first player".
I think the words themselves are racist - black and white. I'd be down with getting rid of them from the dictionary all together. Edit: Add brown as well to the list.
you're the problem, you have brain damage
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#294Well. The speech police started changing "blacklist" and "whitelist" in programming context, even when those had no racist history; maybe it's time to change it in chess. (After all, white always goes first, that is not very PC.) Rename "black" and "white" to "second player" and "first player".
Relatedly, the world champion played a game where the player with the black pieces went first to make a statement about racism [1].
[1]: https://www.chess.com/news/view/moveforequality-carlsen-giri...
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#295We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…
How about calling it a "Buttle" after the movie Brazil from 1985 where a certain Mr. "Buttle" gets arrested and killed instead of a Mr. "Tuttle" due to a fly in a teleprinter.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#296We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…
I use the phrase "K ohne I" since years already. Which basically means "künstlich ohne Intelligenz". We all saw this coming. The topic has been gone over in scifi literature. And still, big tech decided its time to roll it out. "A human would also not be perfect, and we claim this algo is better then the avg. human" is the last thing you hear before discriminating tech is rolled out. And since politics is in the grip of commerce, regulations will not happen early enough. We are fucked. 2040 will be horrible.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
If a human made the same mistake, we would call them incompetent, careless, and negligent. - incompetent system - incompetent robot - incompesys - incompebot - inept system - inept robot - inepsys - ineptobot - inepobot - bunglebot - hambot - sloppybot - careless system - careless robot - carelessys - carelessbot - neglisys - negligent robot - neglibot I like 'neglibot'. "YouTube neglibotted my video." "This is my ne…
Slightly related new word: "copiloting" - copying by AI (copy + looting), e.g. GitHub copiloted opensource code.
Then why not copylooting...
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#298What a fine mess we've created. - Popular experiences tend to be better experiences, so we all congregate to the same services - Homogenous user behavior leads to monopolistic situations, increasing outrage when anything goes wrong - Even if the government doesn't try to enforce moderation, the company attempts to self-moderate to maintain its image - The popularity of the service makes human moderation impossible, c…
> The popularity of the service makes human moderation impossible, creating a need for inevitably-flawed robots That's true, but we might be able to improve things with a bit more human moderation. For instance facebook is insanely profitable. They could probably increase their staffing for moderation by a pretty decent multiple and still be very profitable. So the current state of moderation is not strictly a matter…
Then you have the problem of bias in human reviewers. I don't think you can solve the problem of censorship with just a few more hires.
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the words themselves are racist - black and white. I'd be down with getting rid of them from the dictionary all together. Edit: Add brown as well to the list.
What about yellow and red? Maybe add grey there too in case we run into “little grey men”
No, no, no! Yellow and red are clearly offensive to Chinese and indigenous populations of the Americas!
Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech
#300We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…
Industrial revolutions has happened few times in the past, and every time it occurs, we change our world to adopt it. I can't help but wonder, what the world would look like if services in the future will be provided primarily by AIs. How do we adopt them? Do we have to invent a "New Speech" just to make AI understand us better so we can live a easier life? "Question: Have you consumed your food today?", "Answer: I h…
> Do we have to invent a "New Speech" just to make AI understand us better so we can live a easier life?
It's already happened. Have you ever seen an a grandparent unfamiliar with new tech talk to Alexa? There's a ton of them on Youtube.