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Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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Post by blablablerg » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 5:51 AM UTC

johnsonyuen wrote: post #167

hirundo wrote: post #21

We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…

False positive?

This is the term for it, but probably not sexy enough when I read all the other suggestions.

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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Post by goatlover » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 5:58 AM UTC

dogorman wrote: post #11

Google's pursuit of profit is responsible these and innumerable more injustices. Those who would defend Google often claim that automated moderation is necessary at Google's scale, but does anybody really doubt that Google would still make more than enough money to stay in business if they hired more humans? Automated moderation is not necessary.

Having the AIs flag things for humans to review prior to anything being banned seems more manageable.

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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Post by Clewza313 » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 5:59 AM UTC

basilgohar wrote: post #40

Clewza313 wrote: post #2

> “White’s attack on black is brutal. White is stomping all over black’s defenses. The black king is gonna fall … ” Fortunately there's an easy solution: we can just replace "white" and "black" with neutral alternatives like "allow" and "deny" or "pass" and "block".

Was this reply made by an AI? The context of the suggestions seem GPT-3 close...

Bleep bloop. No, I was just testing out Poe's law.

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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Post by goatlover » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 6:00 AM UTC

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #190

systemvoltage wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the words themselves are racist - black and white. I'd be down with getting rid of them from the dictionary all together. Edit: Add brown as well to the list.

What about yellow and red? Maybe add grey there too in case we run into “little grey men”

Green as well in anticipation of Elon's Mars colony. We'll just call them dusters.

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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Post by ajmurmann » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 6:01 AM UTC

nirui wrote: post #82

hirundo wrote: post #21

We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…

Industrial revolutions has happened few times in the past, and every time it occurs, we change our world to adopt it. I can't help but wonder, what the world would look like if services in the future will be provided primarily by AIs. How do we adopt them? Do we have to invent a "New Speech" just to make AI understand us better so we can live a easier life? "Question: Have you consumed your food today?", "Answer: I h…

Blockchain Chicken Farm gives an interesting angle on this. Part of the book describes a AI controlled pig farm. For the outcome to be good, as many variables as possible have to be removed from the pigs' life. For example total isolation from the outside world. Otherwise there is too much for the AI to account for and the training set also needs to increase. What does that mean for our lifes as AI gets control over more aspects? What variables can be removed?

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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Post by _Mark » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 6:02 AM UTC

I had a video flagged, and marked as adult content because the title had "Hump Day" in it.

I am not sure in other parts of the world, but in Australia Hump day is the middle day of the week, A.K.A Wednesday.

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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Post by goatlover » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 6:02 AM UTC

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #184

mc32 wrote: post #20

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Eh, many wooden sets are light and dark woods. Also many checkers boards are red and black. It’s still ridiculous -like cultural revolution level ridiculous. At least nature will never change and nights will be black and days will be light.

Until “they” force you to have eye implants that correct for this natural racism

"The year was 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren’t only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General."

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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Post by jaimex2 » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 6:02 AM UTC

reedjosh wrote: post #175

zarzavat wrote: post #113

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The best thing to do is to ignore these people, they will never be happy so there's no point trying to please them. If you ignore someone who is never happy then in time they may respect you, but if you always comply then they will never respect you and their perceived power over you simply increases, which means they feel empowered to ask for more and more.

But how will tech Cos show they're woke if they can't just change the names of things and say they did something important? It's literally a bragging point at my new Co.

Anyone else intentionally making master branches in new repos at work?

It's hilarious watching the amount of mental energy people waste on this.

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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Post by dgb23 » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 6:03 AM UTC

runarberg wrote: post #120

hirundo wrote: post #21

We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…

In a government system a similar problem is called Bureaucracy . It is similar in the sense that the system is very complex, beyond any single persons comprehension, bureaucratic system is unforgiving in its conclusion, and it is the responsibility of the victim to deal with a false positive using the same (or similarly complex) system to attempt correction. However this is different from bureaucracy in the level of…

Computer says No!

Re: A YouTube chat about chess got flagged for hate speech

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Post by smsm42 » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 6:03 AM UTC

hirundo wrote: post #21

We need a word or phrase for this phenomenon, where we attempt to substitute human pattern recognition with algorithms that just aren't up to the job. Facebook moderation, Tesla Full Self Driving, the War Games movie, arrests for mistaken facial identification. It's becoming an increasingly dystopic force in our lives and will likely get much worse before getting even worse. So it needs a label. Maybe there's a ten s…

Artificial Stupidity?