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Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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yardie wrote: post #138
ta0x9 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: >>the 4th of July supposedly celebrates independence for only part of the population >Umm yeah, that declaration was for land owning, white men. Native Americans didn't get theirs until 1965. We celebrated it but we knew it wasn't "for us" Using this illogic, you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're…

> you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're the party of slavery, secession, Jim Crow, and segregation Well up to 1964 the majority of black voters were registered Republicans. And then something happened. The same Jim Crow, segregationist Democrat party went through deep structural change and pushed through the Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, Immigration Naturalization Act. You’re under t…

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

dariusj18 wrote: post #122
colpabar wrote: post #96

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I think "political tool" is a better term, and I believe it's an incredibly effective tool for dividing people who might otherwise be united on certain issues. I think that after the 2008 financial crisis and the following bailouts for the people who caused it, a lot of people got fed up, and occupy wall street was born. Occupy was a class based movement: the ultra-rich vs everyone else. And then something happened,…

My guess is that the Occupy movement was one of the first things that got you into politics, otherwise I don't know how else to explain your opinion. Identity politics was around way before the Occupy movement and has been one of the greatest driving forces in progressive social change.

Yeah, but colbapar has a bit of a point: Identity was there, but it wasn't quite so all-consuming of an issue. But I think the timing is a bit off. I think Occupy had pretty much fizzled before identity exploded. I could be wrong - I'm not all that political, so I'm only a fringe observer of these things - but it seems to me that Occupy was pretty much over by 2013, and identity didn't really explode until 2016 or so.

Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by [deleted] »

yardie wrote: post #138
ta0x9 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: >>the 4th of July supposedly celebrates independence for only part of the population >Umm yeah, that declaration was for land owning, white men. Native Americans didn't get theirs until 1965. We celebrated it but we knew it wasn't "for us" Using this illogic, you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're…

> you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're the party of slavery, secession, Jim Crow, and segregation Well up to 1964 the majority of black voters were registered Republicans. And then something happened. The same Jim Crow, segregationist Democrat party went through deep structural change and pushed through the Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, Immigration Naturalization Act. You’re under t…

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

#144

Post by [deleted] »

yardie wrote: post #138
ta0x9 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: >>the 4th of July supposedly celebrates independence for only part of the population >Umm yeah, that declaration was for land owning, white men. Native Americans didn't get theirs until 1965. We celebrated it but we knew it wasn't "for us" Using this illogic, you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're…

> you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're the party of slavery, secession, Jim Crow, and segregation Well up to 1964 the majority of black voters were registered Republicans. And then something happened. The same Jim Crow, segregationist Democrat party went through deep structural change and pushed through the Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, Immigration Naturalization Act. You’re under t…

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

#145

Post by [deleted] »

yardie wrote: post #138
ta0x9 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: >>the 4th of July supposedly celebrates independence for only part of the population >Umm yeah, that declaration was for land owning, white men. Native Americans didn't get theirs until 1965. We celebrated it but we knew it wasn't "for us" Using this illogic, you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're…

> you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're the party of slavery, secession, Jim Crow, and segregation Well up to 1964 the majority of black voters were registered Republicans. And then something happened. The same Jim Crow, segregationist Democrat party went through deep structural change and pushed through the Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, Immigration Naturalization Act. You’re under t…

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

#146

Post by [deleted] »

yardie wrote: post #138
ta0x9 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: >>the 4th of July supposedly celebrates independence for only part of the population >Umm yeah, that declaration was for land owning, white men. Native Americans didn't get theirs until 1965. We celebrated it but we knew it wasn't "for us" Using this illogic, you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're…

> you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're the party of slavery, secession, Jim Crow, and segregation Well up to 1964 the majority of black voters were registered Republicans. And then something happened. The same Jim Crow, segregationist Democrat party went through deep structural change and pushed through the Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, Immigration Naturalization Act. You’re under t…

[deleted]

Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

#147

Post by [deleted] »

yardie wrote: post #138
ta0x9 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: >>the 4th of July supposedly celebrates independence for only part of the population >Umm yeah, that declaration was for land owning, white men. Native Americans didn't get theirs until 1965. We celebrated it but we knew it wasn't "for us" Using this illogic, you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're…

> you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're the party of slavery, secession, Jim Crow, and segregation Well up to 1964 the majority of black voters were registered Republicans. And then something happened. The same Jim Crow, segregationist Democrat party went through deep structural change and pushed through the Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, Immigration Naturalization Act. You’re under t…

[deleted]

Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

#148

Post by [deleted] »

yardie wrote: post #138
ta0x9 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: >>the 4th of July supposedly celebrates independence for only part of the population >Umm yeah, that declaration was for land owning, white men. Native Americans didn't get theirs until 1965. We celebrated it but we knew it wasn't "for us" Using this illogic, you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're…

> you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're the party of slavery, secession, Jim Crow, and segregation Well up to 1964 the majority of black voters were registered Republicans. And then something happened. The same Jim Crow, segregationist Democrat party went through deep structural change and pushed through the Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, Immigration Naturalization Act. You’re under t…

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

#149

Post by hn_ta_0 »

yardie wrote: post #138
ta0x9 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: >>the 4th of July supposedly celebrates independence for only part of the population >Umm yeah, that declaration was for land owning, white men. Native Americans didn't get theirs until 1965. We celebrated it but we knew it wasn't "for us" Using this illogic, you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're…

> you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're the party of slavery, secession, Jim Crow, and segregation Well up to 1964 the majority of black voters were registered Republicans. And then something happened. The same Jim Crow, segregationist Democrat party went through deep structural change and pushed through the Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, Immigration Naturalization Act. You’re under t…

>And then something happened. The same Jim Crow, segregationist Democrat party went through deep structural change and pushed through the Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, Immigration Naturalization Act.

You're so close to getting it, almost there! This is /r/selfawarewolves level stuff.

>You’re under the impression there were 2 political parties.

It's not an impression, it's an objective fact. "Southern Democrats" we're not a separate party. LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Gore, etc. are Southern Democrats. Were they in a separate party? No.

>Those southern democrats (Dixiecrats) left the Democratic Party and became southern Republicans.

Hilariously wrong. Dixiecrats were a party for less than a year, and merged back into the Democratic Party

>So, the party of Jim Crow is now Republican.

Wrong, it was, and is, the Democratic Party.

You need to pick up a history book, you're hilariously just delusionally inventing things that make you feel good because you're uneducated.

Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by dariusj18 »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #142
dariusj18 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess is that the Occupy movement was one of the first things that got you into politics, otherwise I don't know how else to explain your opinion. Identity politics was around way before the Occupy movement and has been one of the greatest driving forces in progressive social change.

Yeah, but colbapar has a bit of a point: Identity was there, but it wasn't quite so all-consuming of an issue. But I think the timing is a bit off. I think Occupy had pretty much fizzled before identity exploded. I could be wrong - I'm not all that political, so I'm only a fringe observer of these things - but it seems to me that Occupy was pretty much over by 2013, and identity didn't really explode until 2016 or so…

> identity didn't really explode until 2016 or so

what? So feminisms just didn't exist until 2016? Rush Limbaugh didn't constantly use the term Feminazi in the early 90s?

The gay rights movement didn't just start, it's been going for half a century.

It's arguable that modern identity politics really began after Civil rights and the mad dash of Dixiecrats to the Republican party afterwards.

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