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Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by muzz »

aritraghosh007 wrote: post #117
muzz wrote: post #113

This should have been absolutely expected. Tech giants were even buying up offices during the pandemic ostensibly in anticipation of larger workforces in the Bay Area.

Google and Facebook both expanded their real estate along the Embarcadero waterfront. On the retail side, Ikea made its first purchase for a retail store in SF. Construction hasn't taken a back seat in SF during the lock down. These stories often get hidden by the catchy headlines of who's shutting down offices and going fully remote.

Google and others also bought offices in places like Sunnyvale, north San Jose (not the downtown site but rather a separate one), etc

Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by dariusj18 »

colpabar wrote: post #96
dariusj18 wrote: post #91

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I find it strange the phrase "political weapon". As if the idea that there might be an issue in the country and politicians wanting to do something about it makes it a weapon. "Oh no Mr. Smith, your not allowed to mention the things that are wrong, otherwise people might think your using it to point out the flaws in your opposition."

I think "political tool" is a better term, and I believe it's an incredibly effective tool for dividing people who might otherwise be united on certain issues. I think that after the 2008 financial crisis and the following bailouts for the people who caused it, a lot of people got fed up, and occupy wall street was born. Occupy was a class based movement: the ultra-rich vs everyone else. And then something happened,…

My guess is that the Occupy movement was one of the first things that got you into politics, otherwise I don't know how else to explain your opinion. Identity politics was around way before the Occupy movement and has been one of the greatest driving forces in progressive social change.

Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by [deleted] »

yardie wrote: post #89
the_third_wave wrote: post #71

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What is it suddenly with all this talk about racism ? > Racism in SF or LA is bad... > ...having to deal with racism in Boise, Idaho, for example, was something they didn't feel comfortable with... Who are those racists and in what way do they express their racism? I'm a European who has been on your side of the Atlantic and Pacific quite often for work- and leisure-related purposes over a period of several decades.…

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: > If I can believe the current narrative things have been going from bad to worse to black people walk the streets in fear of their lives from racist cops in the last few years. In fact, just the opposite. It was worse before, but has slowly gotten better. Black artists have been making songs and paintings about corrupt an…

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by [deleted] »

yardie wrote: post #89
the_third_wave wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it suddenly with all this talk about racism ? > Racism in SF or LA is bad... > ...having to deal with racism in Boise, Idaho, for example, was something they didn't feel comfortable with... Who are those racists and in what way do they express their racism? I'm a European who has been on your side of the Atlantic and Pacific quite often for work- and leisure-related purposes over a period of several decades.…

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: > If I can believe the current narrative things have been going from bad to worse to black people walk the streets in fear of their lives from racist cops in the last few years. In fact, just the opposite. It was worse before, but has slowly gotten better. Black artists have been making songs and paintings about corrupt an…

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by [deleted] »

yardie wrote: post #89
the_third_wave wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it suddenly with all this talk about racism ? > Racism in SF or LA is bad... > ...having to deal with racism in Boise, Idaho, for example, was something they didn't feel comfortable with... Who are those racists and in what way do they express their racism? I'm a European who has been on your side of the Atlantic and Pacific quite often for work- and leisure-related purposes over a period of several decades.…

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: > If I can believe the current narrative things have been going from bad to worse to black people walk the streets in fear of their lives from racist cops in the last few years. In fact, just the opposite. It was worse before, but has slowly gotten better. Black artists have been making songs and paintings about corrupt an…

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by [deleted] »

yardie wrote: post #89
the_third_wave wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it suddenly with all this talk about racism ? > Racism in SF or LA is bad... > ...having to deal with racism in Boise, Idaho, for example, was something they didn't feel comfortable with... Who are those racists and in what way do they express their racism? I'm a European who has been on your side of the Atlantic and Pacific quite often for work- and leisure-related purposes over a period of several decades.…

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: > If I can believe the current narrative things have been going from bad to worse to black people walk the streets in fear of their lives from racist cops in the last few years. In fact, just the opposite. It was worse before, but has slowly gotten better. Black artists have been making songs and paintings about corrupt an…

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by [deleted] »

yardie wrote: post #89
the_third_wave wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it suddenly with all this talk about racism ? > Racism in SF or LA is bad... > ...having to deal with racism in Boise, Idaho, for example, was something they didn't feel comfortable with... Who are those racists and in what way do they express their racism? I'm a European who has been on your side of the Atlantic and Pacific quite often for work- and leisure-related purposes over a period of several decades.…

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: > If I can believe the current narrative things have been going from bad to worse to black people walk the streets in fear of their lives from racist cops in the last few years. In fact, just the opposite. It was worse before, but has slowly gotten better. Black artists have been making songs and paintings about corrupt an…

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by [deleted] »

yardie wrote: post #89
the_third_wave wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it suddenly with all this talk about racism ? > Racism in SF or LA is bad... > ...having to deal with racism in Boise, Idaho, for example, was something they didn't feel comfortable with... Who are those racists and in what way do they express their racism? I'm a European who has been on your side of the Atlantic and Pacific quite often for work- and leisure-related purposes over a period of several decades.…

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: > If I can believe the current narrative things have been going from bad to worse to black people walk the streets in fear of their lives from racist cops in the last few years. In fact, just the opposite. It was worse before, but has slowly gotten better. Black artists have been making songs and paintings about corrupt an…

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Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by ta0xa »

yardie wrote: post #89
the_third_wave wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it suddenly with all this talk about racism ? > Racism in SF or LA is bad... > ...having to deal with racism in Boise, Idaho, for example, was something they didn't feel comfortable with... Who are those racists and in what way do they express their racism? I'm a European who has been on your side of the Atlantic and Pacific quite often for work- and leisure-related purposes over a period of several decades.…

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: > If I can believe the current narrative things have been going from bad to worse to black people walk the streets in fear of their lives from racist cops in the last few years. In fact, just the opposite. It was worse before, but has slowly gotten better. Black artists have been making songs and paintings about corrupt an…

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork...

So let's dig in:

>>the 4th of July supposedly celebrates independence for only part of the population

>Umm yeah, that declaration was for land owning, white men. Native Americans didn't get theirs until 1965. We celebrated it but we knew it wasn't "for us"

Using this illogic, you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're the party of slavery, secession, Jim Crow, and segregation.

>So a country that is built on racism, which the US was, it tends to be everywhere, just not in expressed in objective terms and concepts you'd be familiar with.

So a political party that is built on racism, which the Democratic Party was, it tends to be everywhere, just not in expressed in objective terms and concepts you'd be familiar with.

Btw, I'm sorry for you other people have a different experience from you, and that makes you feel uncomfortable.

Re: Tech workers swore off the Bay Area, now they’re coming back

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Post by ta0x9 »

yardie wrote: post #89
the_third_wave wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it suddenly with all this talk about racism ? > Racism in SF or LA is bad... > ...having to deal with racism in Boise, Idaho, for example, was something they didn't feel comfortable with... Who are those racists and in what way do they express their racism? I'm a European who has been on your side of the Atlantic and Pacific quite often for work- and leisure-related purposes over a period of several decades.…

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork... So let's dig in: > If I can believe the current narrative things have been going from bad to worse to black people walk the streets in fear of their lives from racist cops in the last few years. In fact, just the opposite. It was worse before, but has slowly gotten better. Black artists have been making songs and paintings about corrupt an…

I was waiting for one of these responses to arrive. And just like clockwork...

So let's dig in:

>>the 4th of July supposedly celebrates independence for only part of the population

>Umm yeah, that declaration was for land owning, white men. Native Americans didn't get theirs until 1965. We celebrated it but we knew it wasn't "for us"

Using this illogic, you shouldn't celebrate or support the Democratic party, they're the party of slavery, secession, Jim Crow, and segregation.

>So a country that is built on racism, which the US was, it tends to be everywhere, just not in expressed in objective terms and concepts you'd be familiar with.

So a political party that is built on racism, which the Democratic Party was, it tends to be everywhere, just not in expressed in objective terms and concepts you'd be familiar with.

Btw, I'm sorry for you other people have a different experience from you, and that makes you feel uncomfortable.

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