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Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by herbst »

Twixes wrote: post #190
herbst wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. I live in a quiet house far away from everything in the middle of the Swiss Alps. I get the majority of my food from small farmer stalls around me. The most of other things I just order online. Except my partner the only real contact I have right now is my family I see maybe once a month. However they visit me as I don't really want drive down to a busy town. I have no work related contacts either as I lif…

What kinds of projects afford you this, I'm curious?

Different things. I've had AdSense heavy site and sold that years ago, then built a SaaS and sold that. I do some e-commerce stuff, I have dozens of websites with different kind of affiliate, working on a SaaS right now and I too had some luck with crypto this year.

Basically years of building more or less successful side projects.

But to be fair no 2 years ago I was delivering paper ads for a few months, because a bunch of random projects surely aren't a sustainable income , always :)

Edit:// also it is actually cheaper living as I do than it was living down in the city. My house is old, we heat with wood only. Farming markets here are generally cheaper than supermarkets for quality meat and Vegs. The $500 overhead we pay for our car leasing we would not need otherwise is way less than what we save per square meter living so remote. And we need some extra space for the mentioned e-commerce

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by dang »

hnedeotes wrote: post #176
hilbert42 wrote: post #173

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For someone so technical you sound quite dumb. Lets hope natural selection is true and works out.

You can't attack others like this on HN, regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is.

Also, could you please not post flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments generally? We're trying for something a bit different than internet default here, to the extent possible.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by Kiro »

iancmceachern wrote: post #108
3np wrote: post #64

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Sounds like a case of “the grass is always greener”. There are things that only start to affect you after extended time in a lifestyle. Maybe it would actually be great for you, but it could also be that the downsides only become apparent after a year or two, at which point it can be hard to find a way to get to a good place. EDIT: Current situation doesn’t sound healthy, though. The sweet spot is probably somewhere…

Exactly. I read so many posts on HN about living alone in the middle of nowhere being better than driving 2 hours each way in terrible traffic to sit shoulder to shoulder in an open plan office. There are lots of downsides to living in the middle of nowhere, healthcare, access to other resources, etc. Don't get me wrong, I've fallen into that trap of thinking. My wife and I bought a small RV trailer that we tow to th…

Variety is the opposite of what I want. Putting all eggs in one basket is exactly what makes me excited.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by galoisgirl »

irrational wrote: post #104

I’m an introvert, but I’m also married with 7 children (5 still at home). Frankly I got too much human contact during the lockdown. When I would go into the office pre pandemic I could go to my cubicle, hunker down and not deal with anyone for many hours at a time. Not so easy when I don’t have an office at home and the kids are all doing school from home. However, I did find I was much happier and had much improved…

Username checks out ;)

(Kidding.)

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by peytn »

ergocoder wrote: post #178

I like WFH. I didn't have to go to the office. In fact, it's great that nobody went to the office to gain the advantage of being in person. When some shows up at the office and gets to advance their career faster, everyone will want to go the office. I'll help cough (and whisper why can't I taste anything? oh no) in order to get people to be scared of being a COVID asymptomatic carrier; their kids can't be vaccinated…

This is called being a sociopath and using mind games to control people around you. Just join a remote-first company if it’s that big a deal to you.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by Graffur »

rozab wrote: post #152
Graffur wrote: post #74

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Being an introvert doesn't mean you don't like making eye contact or most of the other things that youtuber is saying.

No, that's the point he's trying to make. He's commenting on the label being used by a certain group of people as an explanation/justification for their lack of social skills and contact. If you go on the r/introvert subreddit there's a load of people talking about their crippling loneliness and social anxiety. These people crave social contact, they don't seem like introverts to me, but they seem to have convinced t…

He's failing then

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by ergocoder »

peytn wrote: post #195
ergocoder wrote: post #178

I like WFH. I didn't have to go to the office. In fact, it's great that nobody went to the office to gain the advantage of being in person. When some shows up at the office and gets to advance their career faster, everyone will want to go the office. I'll help cough (and whisper why can't I taste anything? oh no) in order to get people to be scared of being a COVID asymptomatic carrier; their kids can't be vaccinated…

This is called being a sociopath and using mind games to control people around you. Just join a remote-first company if it’s that big a deal to you.

The real sociopathic behavior is forcing people to commute to the office when they don't need to.

Commute causes road accidents and kills people.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by areeh »

tboyd47 wrote: post #38
kristofferR wrote: post #28

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Agree! One of the most harmful beliefs about the concept of intro-/extroversion is that it is something you are and not something you do. Many people limit themselves massively because of how they've labeled themselves. Especially in "strong introverts", the label is often used as a convenient excuse for not going through the often painful process of trying to improve their confidence skills and social skills. "I'm a…

Aye. It’s funny, perusing the other comments in this thread, how attached people are to these labels, which really have no factual basis at all. We choose the stories that we tell about ourselves; yet we act as if the stories chose us.

As someone who is somewhat dismissive of labels, I've started thinking more about this. In a context/culture where the way you act isn't as accepted/appreciated it seems labels are a useful thing to defend your way and for people to rally around (since a single term for something makes it easier to recognize, for instance).

I think it's natural for them to show up in the kind of culture clash that happens when groups of people who don't feel as accepted/appreciated try to make a positive space for themselves.

Sorry for the vague wording

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by hilbert42 »

dang wrote: post #192
hnedeotes wrote: post #176

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For someone so technical you sound quite dumb. Lets hope natural selection is true and works out.

You can't attack others like this on HN, regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is. Also, could you please not post flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments generally? We're trying for something a bit different than internet default here, to the extent possible. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'…

"You can't attack others like this on HN, regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is."

You can and you ought to when damn fools put lives of others at stake. This not the time for niceties or political correctness. We're in a war, the next life could be mine—and I'm not suicidal.

Incidentally, many seem to forget the a priori reason for government is to keep the citizenry safe—safe from the threat of outsiders, and safe from insiders who wish to harm their fellow citizens, they're justification for the military and law enforcement respectfully.

I expect Government to keep my fellow citizens and me safe; if it doesn't then it has failed in its mission.

" could you please not post flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments generally? We're trying for something a bit different than internet default here,"

If you took the time to read a few of my posts then you would realize that I'm probably too polite on most occasions, also I have never criticized a HN poster directly—and in this instance I was making a general comment with no particular name in mind. Moreover, I go to considerable lengths to ensure that I do not post hearsay or unsubstantiated fact.

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Edit: "regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is" I made no criticism of other posts including the person to whom I was replying. Saying that his criticism perhaps wasn't strong enough given the dire circumstances isn't flaming, rather it's debate.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by dang »

hilbert42 wrote: post #199
dang wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't attack others like this on HN, regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is. Also, could you please not post flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments generally? We're trying for something a bit different than internet default here, to the extent possible. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'…

"You can't attack others like this on HN, regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is." You can and you ought to when damn fools put lives of others at stake. This not the time for niceties or political correctness. We're in a war, the next life could be mine—and I'm not suicidal. Incidentally, many seem to forget the a priori reason for government is to keep the citizenry safe—safe from the threat of…

(I was replying to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27798953, not to you - did you miss that? You might need to turn 'showdead' on in your profile to see the comment, since it's flagkilled now. But I should probably still respond to what you've said here because it is definitely not how HN is supposed to work.)

Sorry, but there's always a version of this argument to be made and people always make it to show that this time is different and their comment is justified. You can justify anything that way, and mostly what people use it to justify is just regular old internet flamewar, which is never very interesting. So I don't see any reason to change HN's rules; if anything, they become more important, not less, as the stakes get higher.

"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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