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“One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Post by arwineap »

goodcanadian wrote: post #27
chha wrote: post #8

There is a couple of other stories that comes to mind, unfortunately both of them were about recovering the dead. "Raising the Dead" is about the accidental discovery of a diver in SA, and the recovery efforts there. [1] "The cave divers who went back for their friends" is about a trio of finns who went back into a Norwegian underwater cave system to recover two friends who got stuck and died there. [2] [1] - https:/…

This one is more a story of dumb luck, but there was a case of a crew member surviving for 2.5 days in an air pocket in his sunken ship: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-africa-25205914 He was discovered by divers hired to investigate the sinking and recover the bodies.

I just want to re-iterate that these are some of the same divers involved with the thai cave rescue in TFA

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Post by yarcob »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #235
yarcob wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk has a history of going after people who critisize him in public. He (and his staff) have again and again attacked journalists, former employees, and anyone else who said anything bad about Tesla or Musk. A common thread is that they always try to present critics as liars and try to destroy their reputation. It's happened so often, that we must assume it's their standard method of operation. And whether that call…

> Musk has a history of going after people who critisize him in public. Does he? Can you name three cases? > He (and his staff) have again and again attacked journalists, former employees, and anyone else who said anything bad about Tesla or Musk. Again, can you name three cases where Musk went after a journalist or former employees, and we know , beyond reasonable doubt, that the victim was right - and not, in fact,…

Regarding the NY Times test drive, I would recommend to read an independent review rather than taking Musks blog posts as gospel.

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Post by dang »

lilSebastian wrote: post #25

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Please don't take threads on generic tangents (this story -> cave story -> pedo guy tweet -> reductio ad Muskum). Please don't post cheap flamebait to HN. Also please don't go on about downvotes or post swipes about other users. It's all very tedious and we're trying for something interesting here.

We've had to ask you before to follow the site guidelines. Would you mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart? We'd be grateful, because we're trying to avoid the tailspin into internet dreck which has traditionally been the fate of forums like this.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27795166.

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Post by busterarm »

_xy8h wrote: post #71
busterarm wrote: post #44

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Correction, the Rachel Maddow defense. You have to pick the person to use it first.

Terrible attempt at a "No, u, lib" retort. https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case... > A federal judge on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit against Fox News after lawyers for the network argued that no "reasonable viewer" takes the primetime host Tucker Carlson seriously, a new court filing said. https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-... >Now comes the claim that you can't expec…

1. I'm a liberal.

2. Both cases were about a news network program not being news but an opinion show (not statements of fact).

3. Seethe harder.

4. We liberals need to learn how to self-critique and also accept criticism from within without labeling everyone as enemies or as "others". This shit is fracturing our identity and driving people to the right. The correcting function to our shitty behavior is going to be ugly.

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Post by dntrkv »

goodcanadian wrote: post #27
chha wrote: post #8

There is a couple of other stories that comes to mind, unfortunately both of them were about recovering the dead. "Raising the Dead" is about the accidental discovery of a diver in SA, and the recovery efforts there. [1] "The cave divers who went back for their friends" is about a trio of finns who went back into a Norwegian underwater cave system to recover two friends who got stuck and died there. [2] [1] - https:/…

This one is more a story of dumb luck, but there was a case of a crew member surviving for 2.5 days in an air pocket in his sunken ship: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-africa-25205914 He was discovered by divers hired to investigate the sinking and recover the bodies.

Every time I watch that I get so emotional. Imagine being in his shoes. Stuck underwater for days, knowing that you are most likely going to die there. Then just by dumb luck you are rescued. The relief this man must have felt.

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Post by TheRealNGenius »

Tabular-Iceberg wrote: post #252
emptysongglass wrote: post #224

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I'm a software engineer. I do software engineering with other software engineers. But I didn't go to school for it, I was self-taught. That doesn't make me less of an engineer. It's ok to express an opinion about Musk either way. You can not like him for all kinds of reasons. But he actually wrote video games as a kid growing up. He wrote code at his earliest startups and a lot of it.

I know the word gets thrown around a lot, but “software engineering” doesn’t really have anything to do with engineering at all, and it certainly doesn’t make anyone engineers. Not just because it doesn’t have any formal recognition as an engineering discipline but more importantly because the field is too immature for any such recognition to be at all meaningful. Case in point, all those private certification scheme…

this is correct, it shouldn't be called engineering at all actually.

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Post by fastball »

wnevets wrote: post #280
fastball wrote: post #230

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Yin and Yang. The defenders come out of the woodwork at approximately the same moment the attackers do.

Why tho? Musk calls someone a pedophile for petty reasons, he gets called out for it and his defenders respond by saying he is the reason the electric car market exist. It's absolutely bizarre.

Well the top comment about a story Musk played little part in was about Musk when I first replied. You could ask the same question of the criticizers.
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